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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
A friend and I were having a discussion and he said that all professional bodybuilders take steroids is this true? He says that its almost impossible for any real bodybuilder to get big without using steroids.But if someone works out hard and puts their time and energy into it ,wont they get results without using steroids? After all dont the real bodybuilders get tested for steroids? Its hard to believe that guys with great bodies would do drugs? Is that wrong? Tell me what you think.

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king89123
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posted July 03, 2000 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king89123   Click Here to Email king89123     Edit/Delete Message
WTF!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES, BIGG TIME. DO YOU ACCUTUALLY THINK THAT LEE PRIEST ARMS ARE NATURALLY THAT BIG.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
Is that a reply?? Next..

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king89123
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posted July 03, 2000 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king89123   Click Here to Email king89123     Edit/Delete Message
EVEN THE ONES THAT DO THE NATURAL CONTESTS JUICE HERE AND THERE.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I do think his arm are naturally that big..Why wouldnt I? Isnt that the pay off for pumping up and working hard? Why would I assume that someone is doing steroids? Is it impossible to get results from hard work? Dont professionals get tested for steroids?

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thiassi
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posted July 03, 2000 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi   Click Here to Email thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
We had this talk at home and you know how I feel.

L8R

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TeTon
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posted July 03, 2000 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TeTon     Edit/Delete Message
as you know to be considered natural in a competition you only have to be clean for five years prior, and in addition they never test for hgh in bodybuilders. These guys are taking as much as five to ten thousand dollars a month in AS. I know because I had a chance to meet with a superheavyweight contender....Vitamin S in the fountain of growth my friend.

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
I've hit my full potential naturally(7years of training) now its time to take it to the
next level.If you believe Lee Priest got that big naturally then your a moron.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
to scott825..Jealous you couldnt get that big? A little too much anger ,its just a friendly chat..right..moron..

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
If its just a friendly chat then take it to
the chat & conversation board.This is where
the big boys play.I was 6'0 & 250 before i juiced,now im 27 & yes its time for my first cycle.There are people on this board who could tell you that to. haha, ignorance is bliss.

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Natymike
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posted July 03, 2000 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
Damn bonita, you must be bigger than Priest naturally, otherwise, you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
Ignorance is bliss for the old and week..when you say big is that fat??sorry BIG Boy ..You might be the exception..So how long have you owned the discussion board??I post where I want to..It got your attention and Im not even on the chat side. Just like the saying goes if its too loud your to old..You follow the rules and go the chat side..If it bothers you dont reply..BIG BOY..Its a free country ..Go watch jeapordy and let the guys that dont have a complex about their bodies speak their mind...

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Natymike
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posted July 03, 2000 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
what the fuck are you talking about, you have the wrong attitude about this board, we do have rules, and we don't talk shit to each other, exept when some jackass logs on with 6 posts and starts talking shit.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
then dont respond ..is it my fault you have a complex about your body? Is it wrong to ask a question??why would that offend you??How is asking if professional bodybuilders do steroids offensive?? How is that talking shit..How does that offend you personally? Are you a real professional bodybuilder? I think not..And if you were and steroids was the norm..then all would be doing it and you wouldnt have a complex about it..denial and anger is the sign of a problem ..relax..

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areeefer
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posted July 03, 2000 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for areeefer   Click Here to Email areeefer     Edit/Delete Message
This guys is a ignorant fool. Does he actually belive that those pro's are natural, or he is just trying to start shit.
I really dont know what this clown is upto. Here is some advice; go read a fucken book and do something constructive with your time.
Dont start shit on these boards , they have probably saved my life.

Later

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
haha thats around 12% BF..No complex here.
Its just when someone comes
on here asking if the pros (people like Priest,or Ronnie Coleman) are on juice then its obvious that you dont know very much about the sport of bodybuilding.The truth is
is that this is a useless topic & it should
atleast be on the chat & conversation board.
You sure are awful defensive guy.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
So how long have you known these professionals?? you must be pretty tight to know what they do at home..And thats right..only 6 post and proud of it..Sitting on the computer chatting with peolpe who have a complex about roids and who wants to so badly believe that all is doing it to rid them of there complex of not being natural or working out at the gym? Hm big decision..If you want to or need to because of age , dont be ashamed but dont asume that guys that are twice as big as youll ever be all do roids..You said you were natural for 7 years.how would you feel if way back then someone acused you of doing roid? not fair to the hard work you put in right? 12 BF? well i guess you could be anything you want to here right.

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deca-ready
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posted July 03, 2000 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deca-ready   Click Here to Email deca-ready     Edit/Delete Message
Bonita,no disrespect to you but what are you doing on an anabolic message board?-Are you considering a cycle and just kidding or what?

I'm 23 and less then a year ago I finally opened my eyes and realized that bodies as huge as any pro body builder has to be on something.How can you get that vascular and ripped with only high protein e/c/a/ etc...

I was afraid legally and health wise of gear 6 months ago and in January it caught my eye and I really started reading about it and reading other people's good experiences with it because of planned/taken precautions to combat any side effects that the media calls helter skelter.

Since then I have turned a complete 180 and I realize how much gear has been way fucking over exaggerated and walked through like a mud hole thanks to our good friends the media the undisputed blue ribbon winners of complete bullshit.

Before you come on here badgering us for minding our own business until you showed up so if you want to tell us all this rightous bullshit than at least do your research and take a look on our side of the fence before you judge.

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Natymike
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posted July 03, 2000 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
bonita-----I never said your question was talking shit, but your whole paragraph about "Ignorance is bliss for the old and week" by the way, its wEAk, anyways, that paragraph pisses people off like me, how are you gonna talk shit like that on your 6th post????

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
that message was for scott825 .read his prior response.nothing against you natymike I was just asking and everyone trew a roid rage

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
umm whatever kid.. even

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Natymike
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posted July 03, 2000 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
All I know is that its 4:40 in the morning, and I'm tired as shit, late!!!!

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
even

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
Bonita-- You are a female? If not, why are you using the name "beautiful1" in the female gender?

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Iam a female

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
thus the name....

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
I would say that ALL professional bodybuilders juice. I would also say that 95% of all natural bodybuilders juice or have juiced at one time. Also, many "natural" shows only require being "clean" for one year. But that does not mean "completely clean"
oh, and welcome to the board Bonita1

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
No disrespect intended. Just inquiring..Is that wrong?

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
nope...not at all. When I first started training I thought steroids were "wrong" and that there was the potential to get as big as the guys in the magazines. Atfer some time and reading I discovered the opposite to be true.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
Lorenzo-thank you for being respectful and for giving me your opinon. And thank for the welcome.Thats all I was looking for..
a respectable opinon, or thought..see ya

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe your right Lorenzo..maybe

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
You sure are digging deep arent you??LOL,
I've only edited 1 of my replies & that was
cause of a misspelling. Youve edited 6 of yours,2 times on one of them,& it still has not helped you any. Chicken?..really how old are you. There are many educated women
on this board that have done alot of research
on AS you should do the same.

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
sure no problem. good luck with your training...bye

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
LOL get real..and I just turned 22 in may what does that have to do with anything..you need to admit you have a roid problem get rid of your anger and head back to the gym to boost your self esteem..Im sorry Im a lousy speller old man ..Id rather ba a lousy speller than just plain lousy..

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I don't think it matters if I'm right or not. That's just the way things are. But it doesn't mean that you should respect them less. They still have to bust their asses in the gym to be big. They just have taken it to another level of hugeness. Many of the same pro's would be pro's if there was no such thing as steroids....they would just be a bit smaller. They are still genetically gifted humans.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
scott ..juice it up man...!!!you need it!!!

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Hitter
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posted July 03, 2000 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hitter     Edit/Delete Message
In any sport, when the stakes are high for the competitors and winning is the only goal, you be sure they are on steriods. The only reason why steriod use is so rampant, is that, the expectations of sport fans are so high that the performance levels expected of today's top atheletes are impossible to achieve naturally. So in reality, while the general public may damn the use of steriods, they are in-fact unknowingly supporting it's abuse. They want to see faster sprints, they want to see more record-breaking performances, they want to see more massive freaks, they want to see atheletes continue to outdo their bests performances and keep improving. In reality, steriod abuse in sports is fueled by the fans themselves and the media. I know that the ultimate choice to do steriods or stay natural lies in the hands of the athelete himself, but when you are a pro, and your career and livelihood is at stake, that decision is not so hard to make. I'm a natural bodybuilder and while I'm not too hot about drugs and stuff, I still have the common decency to respect the personal decisions and lifestyle choices others have chosen to follow.

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
I think exposure to the bodybuilding culture dictates how you feel about this subject. People that have not been exposed don't really know how wide spread it is in the sport and certainly are unaware of how wide spread it is in other sports aswell (tennis, boxing, cycling, soccer, rugby, track & field...you name it roids are there) oh, i need to add swimming too!!

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
I guess in 5 years youll be an old lady then
right? No roid problem here,just started 1st
cycle & train everyday.

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
I guess in 5 years youll be an old lady then
right? No roid problem here,just started 1st
cycle & train everyday.

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Hitter
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posted July 03, 2000 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hitter     Edit/Delete Message
.... peace.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
Thats the problem Lorenzo..It has nothing to with them personally. The question was professional bodybuilder in general and if they do or dont do roids..Im intittled to my opinion and just wanted others but some people took it personal..everone
has some sort of vice. But some people dont use roids & its not fair to them.

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scott825
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posted July 03, 2000 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
Ok got to get ready for work..
happy 4th, peace im out.

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
I think if the media and government didn't cause such a scare about roids where a bb could say openly that he or she uses roids it wouldn't be a problem. Today a bodybuilder needs to deny it or not say anything about it.....it's just assumed the they are using, So, anybody that has any size is automatically guilty until proven innocent.

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
thats right in 5 years i will be an old lady.And I will still be intittled to my opinion and by then I might need steroids. Its a choice that everyone free to make.But it doesnt neccasarily make it the choice for all..And if someone were to ask me about steroids I wouldnt get all anal and defensive either..its still a free country right..it was just a question thats all...Its like the acholic who rants and raves about not being an acholic..whos he trying to convence anyways?

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lorenzo
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posted July 03, 2000 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
hey! I'm 5 years older than you and I'm not an old man!!am i?

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
well put Hitter..thanks for for educated opinion

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thiassi
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posted July 03, 2000 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi   Click Here to Email thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
She is not against roids, she just thinks it is like cheating. She still helps me with my shots and helps me sneak them over the border.

L8R

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Bonita1
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posted July 03, 2000 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bonita1   Click Here to Email Bonita1     Edit/Delete Message
No of course your not old Lorenzo..and thanks..and thanks Thiassi..

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mrbill
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posted July 03, 2000 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mrbill   Click Here to Email mrbill     Edit/Delete Message
Bonita...like many others I was "scared" by the media exaggeration concerning steroid usage until I began to research it myself. Like many other things in the media the realities are far from the hype and hysteria that the media expounds. If you research the subject with an open mind I believe you will find this to be true. This does not mean that steroids are for everyone, just that many of the reactions and effects of steroids are greatly exaggerated by the media...(e.g. "roid-rage"). I am not a professional, nor do I aspire to be, but I do have personal knowledge of professional football players who use steroids as well as professional body-builders. To compete at the top levels of professional body-building it is absolutely necessary to use steroids. This is well-known and accepted by those who compete at that level. I cannot make a moral judgement as to whether or not this is "fair" as ALL top competitors do it.

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