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Karate guy
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posted April 16, 2000 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
Who's into the arts besides lifting? Currently I'm into the Chinese Kenpo, have several weapons forms, self defense, some firearms, Jui Jitsu, some kickboxing, and lifting. American Kenpo sucks compared to the Shaolin stuff.

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BackDoc
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posted April 16, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
I studied Muay Thai boxing for a few years in addition to a general grappling class. We attended many seminars since we got in for a reduced fee. My favorite seminars were in shoot-wrestling, krav-maga, 2 seminars given by Gene Lebell, and one that featured JJ Machado. I agree, I think the Eastern Schools beat ours hands down. Shaolin looks pretty cool too. Have you heard of one called Bando? These guys are absolutely crazy! They break cinder blocks on each other heads and jump out of trees so they can hit all the limbs on the way down just to show off how brutal they are. Craziness I tell ya!

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rocko
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posted April 16, 2000 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rocko   Click Here to Email rocko     Edit/Delete Message
just remember boys, no man is faster then a bullet

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pain is temporary,
pride is forever.

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BiffBoom
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posted April 16, 2000 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiffBoom   Click Here to Email BiffBoom     Edit/Delete Message
I did Shaolin Kempo for two years..the college where I went to offered the classes for free..kind of hard to pass up a free offer. I plan on doing it again once I heal up from some recent car accident injuries

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Karate guy
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posted April 16, 2000 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
I personally like the 'reversals', gettin out of any kinda headlocks, full nelsons, bearhugs, grabs, etc.

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BackDoc
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posted April 16, 2000 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
I agree Rocko, but experience has solidified my belief that at times when someone is intent on bullying you or starting a fistfight that martial arts are a great means of getting out of serious scrapes in a hurry with as little injury as possible.
I know a lot of people are 100% gung ho on grappling arts, but in my humble experience, there's nothing quite so effective as being able to throw multiple combinations with a flurry of speed to end a fight. The martial arts taught and learned properly offer a great way to have a controlled aggressive response especially at times when you don't have access to a gun for self defense.

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WCP
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posted April 17, 2000 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Ya know...I have always had a problem with people that feel the need to protect their own ego with gun references when it comes to martial arts...no flame intended there.

I studied Seikan Karate for many years..then left to study Hung Gar Gung Fu to learn the animal hand strikes..
I then moved to a submission academy..and got hooked from there..

It combined the drills and movements from muay thai..and jujustu..as well as great boxing strikes...I then competed on a tri state NHB circuit..for a few years to follow...it kicked ass until I broke my knee...well water under the bridge anyhow..

Later,
WCP

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JR
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posted April 17, 2000 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JR   Click Here to Email JR     Edit/Delete Message
hey karate guy do you know what aikido( spelling)is. my friend is trying to get me to join but i don't know what it really is. if you know please. thnks

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Cleaner
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posted April 17, 2000 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cleaner   Click Here to Email Cleaner     Edit/Delete Message
I alway try to get into the arts. I've wrestled and done Judo but none of the others. I go talk to people and they just keep pushing for me to compete for them and I have no desire to fight. I'm to old for that shit now (31). I just want to learn something to stay sharp and limber. I'll go a couple times and they just don't back off and fuck it I leave. Don't have time to be nursing a bunch of bumps and bruises. Shit was different when I did have a house and business. Shit I gotta go to work no choice on that.
Aikido is the stuff seagal does. It's all about defensive strikes. If you watch him rarely strikes first. He grabs their arm after they miss and flips or breaks it. It would be one of the arts that I would go for.
If anyone knows of a good place in St. Louis yell at me.

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WCP
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posted April 18, 2000 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
JR,
Aikido is a Japanese art. Its meaning is something along the lines of the "gentle way"
This is due to the fact that there is very little motion involved in aikido. It a matter of using your opponents energy against him. It involves alot of joint manipulations, throwing techniques, and joint locks.
Some great stuff...give it a shot man,
Later,
WCP

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 18, 2000 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i will just buy some mace.

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Karate guy
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posted April 18, 2000 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
Hey JR! You ever see one of Steven Seagals movies? Thats Aikido, the original stuff as taught by Ushiba when he was alive. Aikido kicks ass as far as an art goes. A good Aikido guy can generally wreck most other martial artists(a good aikido guy) Seagal is at least a 7th Dan which is way up there and he is personal bodyguard to the Dali Lama sometimes too.

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BackDoc
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posted April 18, 2000 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
Seagal actually has seminars going on a couple of times per year that anyone can attend (I didn't because he requires everyone who goes to attend a buddhist prayer and meditation before the actual seminar begins, since I'm not buddhist, I didn't go). He is in tight with the Dali Lama, who has proclaimed him to be the reincarnation of a past buddhist warrior--that got the Dali Lama in hot water with other Buddhist holy men, but it hasn't really caused much of an uproar. Actually Seagal is the highest ranking Aikidoist in the United States. It wouldn't surprise me that he does occasional bodyguard work for the Dali Lama. The Dali Lama's full time bodyguard is Stephen K. Hayes---the only American to ever complete the entire Ninjutsu Training and "certification" tests. He wrote a bunch of books on Ninjutsu some years back. He's most likely just about the most dangerous man on the planet with his hands. Oh well. Take it easy.

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JR
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posted April 19, 2000 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JR   Click Here to Email JR     Edit/Delete Message
WELL I'M INTERESTED IN LEARNING AIKIDO IF ANYONE KNOWS OF A GOOD PLACE OUT HERE IN L.A. GIVE ME A HOLLAR. THANKS

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BackDoc
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posted April 19, 2000 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, in southern Cali there's a school run by the real Frank Dux. He teaches ninjutsu with an obvious military twist on it. Nothing like that fake Jean Claude Van Dammit crap.

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dboxer911
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posted April 19, 2000 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dboxer911   Click Here to Email dboxer911     Edit/Delete Message
i done a little grappling and alot of boxing and taekwondo..

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