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THE TRUE ADONIS
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 8)
posted April 08, 2000 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE TRUE ADONIS   Click Here to Email THE TRUE ADONIS     Edit/Delete Message
MY MEASUREMENTS ARE AS FOLLOWS: CHEST 53
ARM AT HEIGHT TOP OF INSERTION:20 3/4.02
WAIST:29
QUADS27 LEFT
27 1/2 RIGHT
HEIGHT:5`11 WEIGHT:217
NOW TELL ME WHY IS IT NECESSARY TO USE STEROIDS.....ARE THEY THE EASY WAY OUT?

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moe dank
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posted April 08, 2000 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
now go to a christian site and tell all of them how stupid they are and that they dont need a majic man in the sky to feel good.

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Quadzilla43
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posted April 08, 2000 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla43     Edit/Delete Message
Those are good measurements, but if you are totally natural as u state, then u are genetically above avereage. What about the guys and gals that have spent years at a plateau, varied their program, tightened up their diet, and still been stuck? Thats the problem with the natural trainers who are gifted; they tend to look down on those that are not and use gear to help them along the way.

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studcj
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posted April 08, 2000 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
The use would be to have 30inch quads,
22inch arms, and you could weigh 240 instead of 217! Thats the use. I think I've said enough.

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"I can, because Im crazzy!"
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vdevil
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message
Hey man, steroids are not a way out of doing hard work. I train just as hard wether i am on or not. To me,they make it more interesting.

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studcj
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posted April 08, 2000 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
The use would be to have 30inch quads,
22inch arms,60inch chest, and you could weigh 240 instead of 217! Thats the use. I think I've said enough.

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"I can, because Im crazzy!"
Studcj

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2Thick
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posted April 08, 2000 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Taking gear is as much cheating as is ingesting more protein. It helps you to reach a goal which would otherwise be near-impossible to reach.

AAS are merely a catalyst and not the reason you grow.

Do you consider wearing clothes cheating the natural order of things? We were not born with clothes but we wear them to give us an advantage over the elements.

Gear is much like putting on a heavy coat before going out into a snowstorm. It only gives us the chance to brave the weather, but the coat does not control if we choose to go out or stay in.

I hope I haven't lost any of you.

Jon

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greenhouse
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posted April 08, 2000 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greenhouse   Click Here to Email greenhouse     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43682495
Gear is much like putting on a heavy coat before going out into a snowstorm. It only gives us the chance to brave the weather, but the coat does not control if we choose to go out or stay in.

THAT HAS TO BE SOME OF THE DEEPEST SHIT I HAVE READ ON THE BOARDS... WOW, 2THICK!

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MONSTROSITY
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
ADONIS, YOU SOUND LIKE A FLUKE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE THAT IS BARELY 200 POUNDS AND NEARLY SIX FEET TALL THAT HAS 20 3/4 INCH ARMS. YOU MUST BE TERRIBLY WEAK AND HAVE THE WORST SQUAT. YOU MIGHT NEED AS TO GET RID OF THE CHICKEN LEGS. GOOD LUCK!

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LittleSavage34
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posted April 08, 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleSavage34   Click Here to Email LittleSavage34     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 51221561
There is nothing wrong with steroids. I'm 20, will start my first cycle this June. My parents both know I use them, and don't question my sanity. My friends know, and I've given speeches on campus about steroids. I'm not in the least bit ashamed of them.

If you don't take advantage of all your opportunities, then you are only cheating yourself.

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gamer
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Look man, first off don't come in here and knock others cause if you were around long enough to know anything about AS (which you don't if you think they are easy) then you would know that's NOT what we do here. Were here to help, guide, and support each other not talk about how great we are. Second you weigh 217 at 5'11'' and your stretchin the tape measure at 21 inches on those guns. Genius have you ever heard of a ponderal index? Obviously not or you would not have supplied us with our laugh for the day. Go to t-mag.com and look in their previous issue 90 " The truth about bodybuilding arm measurements" by Poliquin. Oh I forgot though, since we use AS we train the easy way so why would we ever read a Poloquin article!?! Read, learn, and enjoy OR leave. No superiority issues are needed or wanted on this board. I guess my "easy" dose of test has me moody, uh oh watch out I might have a "roid rage". Give me a f**ing break the one true adonis.

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THE TRUE ADONIS
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE TRUE ADONIS   Click Here to Email THE TRUE ADONIS     Edit/Delete Message
I AM NOT SAYING STEROID USE IS BAD AND I AM NOT SAYING DONT DO IT ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT CURRENTLY THE CONTESTS RUN BY JOE WEIDER CONTRADICTORY IN CLAIMING THEIR DRUG POLICIES.IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME SINCE I COMPETE ON THE ALL NATURAL CIRCUIT.AND YES THOSE ARE MY ARM MEASUREMENTS. INTERESTED IN SEEING MY BIOGRAPHY CHECK OUT IFBN`S NATURAL PAGE. LIKED YOUR ANALOGY ON CLOTHES. OH BY THE WAY MY TRAINING PARTNER IS IFBB PRO DAVE JUNICEO AND HE JUICES SO ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT AGAINST IT IT IS YOUR CHOICE ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT DO YOU REALLY REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND IF SO ARE YOU DOING IT UNDER MEDICAL SUPERVISION.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 08, 2000 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i'm not attacking you adonis, but i don't give a shit. no one considers driving a car the "easy way out". or using a typewriter vs. writing by hand the "easy way out". we are just more efficient at what we do because we are willing to throw aside popular opinions on this subject and do what works instead of what everyone else thinks we should do.

i'm proud of myself for being like this. i am doing what others always taught me to do, to do what is right instead of what gets you respect.

like i said, this is not an attack. just my opinion.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 08, 2000 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i know you aren't against steroid use, and i'm sorry if the above post sounded condesending or anything. it wasn't meant to be.

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Thunder
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posted April 08, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thunder   Click Here to Email Thunder     Edit/Delete Message
The guy said he measured his arm around his shoulder give him a break his quad measurement was around both legs My training partner is 280 going pro soon and has only 21 inch arms very freaky big mo fo and oh ya is only 5'11 arnolds arms weren't 22 and he juiced the hell out of him self and he was never over 240 got that from lee haney's traing partner who trained with arnold

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Jonrocks
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posted April 08, 2000 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonrocks   Click Here to Email Jonrocks     Edit/Delete Message
No, some of us don't know what we are doing... yet. But that is why we are here. No we are not under medical supervion becuase the US does not allow the medical profesionals to enter that branch of pharmacology. But this board will allow us to educate our selves in using and in helping others use AS. Not to mention the point of helping people learn the truth of AS use and try to protect the "uneducated" from hurting themeselves and giving AS use a worse rap then it already has.

You opinion sounds strong, like you are against the use of it. As you stated earlier you are not. My advice to you would to be look around and spend some time going through the posts before you jump right in and start stirring things up. You will soon realize that the members of this board are not the durgie meat heads you might think they are, but educated, some medically realted, hardworking individuals with the same goals that you may have.

I myself have similar measurments to you (a little shorter, and thicker legs). I have been 100% natrual up to now. I am ready to push my body into a new level of growth... are you?

[This message has been edited by Jonrocks (edited April 08, 2000).]

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Deepsquat
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
Bullshit.....I call bullshit show me a picture with a tape around these 21 inch arms at 217 lbs you must be 4' 8" tall .21 inches yeah and there arn't flames shooting out of my ass

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MONSTROSITY
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
ADONIS YOUR MOTHER IS CALLING BETTER GET UP TO BED. I WILL BE IN YOUR DREAMS. YOUR TORTURE WILL BRING ME PLEASURE.

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Dutch
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posted April 08, 2000 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
hehehe...hey Monstrosity relax

> YOUR TORTURE WILL BRING ME PLEASURE. ???

sick !!

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KANE
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KANE     Edit/Delete Message
Guys he is full of shit. He'd have to weight alot more than 217 to have a 53 inch chest. His quads are only 27 inches? His arms are 20? Does not make since to me!!!!!!!!!

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Heemaan445
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posted April 08, 2000 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
I juice cause I've hit my "natural peak" and simply wanted to take it a couple steps further, and further and .......

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david3
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for david3   Click Here to Email david3     Edit/Delete Message
LET THE SHIT DIE GUYS IF WE NEED HIS ASSHOLE OPINION WE CAN BEAT IT OUT OF HIM.REMEMBER MAN ITS BETTER TO NOT SAY ANYTHING AND LET PEOPLE THINK U R DUMB THAN TO SPEAK AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT.

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DYLAN
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posted April 08, 2000 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
Damn, no one mentioned that this bro just fingered his training partner as a gear user. Even named names. I hope for your taining partner's sake that people are listening. You should be more discreet about dropping names, especially here. Just my opinion.
D.

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Ronnie Wheelmier
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronnie Wheelmier     Edit/Delete Message
Yeaaah, of course..., AS are the "easy way out".

Then, this is a good reason for using them.
Isn't easy?

I think you have to consider joining the club. C'mon, it's not so bad. U'll be surprised!

RW
PS please share some picture of your impressive body with us the tiny toons

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Jay Z
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
I'd rather be big than small. That's why.

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the truth
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posted April 09, 2000 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Just measured a close friend. Right arm--20 5/8; right thigh--28 1/4; chest--54; waist--38; height--6'0". He currently weighs 277 and has a decent V-shape.

In all fairness to Adonis, some people do have a propensity toward large arms at a low bodyweight, but a lot of those people who claim 20+, when asked to be measured, shy away. Post a pic w/ the tape on your arm.

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WCP
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posted April 09, 2000 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Man, I got in on this one late..
WEll..Ill tell you why I juice...

I juice cause I hate hardwork...and cant stand being in the gym that long..around all you meathead fuckers..
I juice cause I dont want to work that hard..and diets suck..
I juice cause people will think Im cool if I do it..
I juice cause I want girls..
I juice cauce I want all the rewards..and hate the work..

Now Im sure most of my Bros will agree with me here...
Just my thoughts..
WCP

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted April 09, 2000 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, pretty hard to believe stats. You would have to be at like -10% bodyfat. Well prove us wrong and post a pic.

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toobigformuch
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posted April 09, 2000 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toobigformuch   Click Here to Email toobigformuch     Edit/Delete Message
i agree with him to some degree if you are not an athlete competing at a high level(includes bodybuilding) there is no point or what is the point so you can be the biggest and strongest guy at the gym?????

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Platinum
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posted April 09, 2000 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message
Well well well, what do we have here? I think this guy is just stirring the metaphorical pot. I call a moratorium on whatever Adonis has to say. Just do not post replies and he/she/it will go away.

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Heemaan445
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 09, 2000 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
I cant possibly write down all the positives to being "bigger and stronger" than most other males......goes far beyond being a "mans man" or just "getting pussy".......

You (toobig---whatever) must not be one of the "elite" or you WOULD understand it !!!

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toobigformuch
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posted April 09, 2000 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toobigformuch   Click Here to Email toobigformuch     Edit/Delete Message
but i am one of the "elite" i guess i agree with it to some degree i am half and half definately 100% for it for athletes and not sure about the guys just wanting to be bigger and stronger

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Heemaan445
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posted April 09, 2000 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I look at it this way....I've always told my wife that there isnt one reason for what I do.....there's a lifetime of answers.....

I see what your saying, I do know alot of guys that just want the size and strength for goofy reasons.....now that I think about it.....but there are just sooo many positives to being exceptionally strong....from getting cars unstuck,( I picked the front end of a womans car out of a ditch this winter, and she sent me a fruit basket..) to....ah, sorry bro, its late and I'm starting to ramble.....

Its just that everyday I'm thankful to God for giving me the motivation to work hard and be dedicated, and thankful to Steris and Schering and .............he he he

Peace,
H-man

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Heemaan445
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posted April 09, 2000 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
hey, one last thing........what do u mean by "your one of the elite" ... r u talking in size and strength......or ??? .....

Cause u ask "whats the point of doing it if your not competing in a high level sports or bodybuilding"...so I was assuming you didnt really know the answer....

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tmi533
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 09, 2000 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmi533   Click Here to Email tmi533     Edit/Delete Message
just a thought i have many times herd why dont you compete or why take juice if your not gonna compete.
simple i want what i want when i want it
they say thats addict thinking i dont care
i will never compete in bodybuilding,i have no desire i simply like being big-powerful
and i know i can not make money at it
i do it purely for cosmetic ego maniac reasons.
but would it make it any more noble if i lost 20 pounds of fat 20 pounds of muscle and got
a 20$ shitty trophie
if i thought i had a chance to make money at it i would but i'm a realist and Know my limitations. juiced for purely egotistical reasons and loving it

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