posted April 08, 2000 04:05 PM            

---

THE REAL AND TRUE PHYSIQUE IS ONE WHICH IS ACQUIRED WITHOUT STEROIDS. BODYBUILDING HOPEFULLY WILL SHIFT BACK TO HARDCORE TRAINING AND PERFECT NUTRITION RATHER THAN 4 INCH NEEDLES AND UNAESTHETIC MASS MONSTERS. THE SPORT IS AT A SAD STATE CURRENTLY AND HOPEFULLY JUST HOPEFULLY STEROID USE WILL SUBSIDE. A TRUE PHYSIQUE IS A NATURAL PHYSIQUE.

------------------
THE TRUE ADONIS

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:08 PM            

---

i hope i am the first one to say fu!!!!!!!

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:09 PM            

---

Glad that you shared your 'opinion', I can respect that. Because you don't believe in something, then it is wrong for everyone else, right?

What made you come here if you are so against it?

AND, what channel should I have my TV set on?

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:18 PM            

---

I personally don't agree with you, but I don't think anyone else will either because your on an AS board, why donn't you go o the suppliment board.

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:19 PM            

---

Don't knock it till youve tried it! But then again your probably happy with being 130lbs and being able to buy your clothes off of the rack at the gap. Get off this site and logg on at getyourheadoutofyourass.com

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:21 PM            

---

ANYONE INTERESTED IN OBTAINING A CHAMPION PHYSIQUE NATURALLY EMAIL ME AT [email protected]
MR. NC NATURAL IFBN

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:23 PM            

---

So your saying because most of us here use AS, we are therefore aesthetically displeasing, dont work out intensly enough, dont know how to eat correctly, and are not real because we are not "natural".
This is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. However, YOU ARE ABOUT WAY OFF TARGET HERE.
GO LEARN SOME MORE AND COME BACK WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY.

------------------
Concieve, believe, achieve! Kaz

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:29 PM            

---

OH YA, YOUR THAT PREACHER FOR NATURAL BB'S HUH. SO WHY THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ANABOLIC DISCUSSION BOARDS, JUST TO SPREAD THE FAITH??? I HAVE A LOYAL DISCIPLE FOR YOU.
HIS NAME IS ADAM.

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:31 PM            

---

THIS BOARD IS AN ANABOLIC BOARD NOT AN ANABOLIC STEROID BOARD.....QUITE A DIFFERENCE

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:38 PM            

---

This board deals mostly with STEROIDS in case you have not noticed. So why don't you leave and stop bothering the other people on the board, and wasting your time.

None of us want to hear it!

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:45 PM            

---

IF WE WANTED TO BE NATURAL, WE WOULD N'T BE POSTING HERE WOULD WE? WHY DON'T YOU FIND ANOTHER BOARD WHERE OTHERS SHARE YOUR POINT OF VIEW? Get out a here, we don't need your mighty opinion of your self and how wonderful you are. Your welcome to stay if you'll stop preaching and start listening...

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:47 PM         

---

Come on guys, lets give this guy a guy a chance to prove himself. It is always good to hear an other oppinion..

Adonis, prove yourself..reply to posts with good arguments. you might even get some respect..

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 04:57 PM            

---

You are entitled to your own opinion. Everyone is. I think that you can build a good physique without steroids, there are a few hardcore natural guys- one comes to mind, Skip LaCour. I respect him a great deal for this, and he does have an outstanding physique. But if you are a true believer in Natural is the way, then look what Skip says about other dudes that juice. Does he whine and cry about it? No. Does he get mad when an ex-juicer enters a natural contest (even though he/she is off the shit)? No.

Whining and crying will get you nowhere. I don't have a problem with you voicing your opinion, but if you wish to spark change, there are different avenues for doing so. I belive that pro bodybuilding has turned into a freak show, but that's what the public wants to see. The public buys the products that these freaks advertise. The public buys the magazines with these freaks on the covers. It's exactly what the public wants.

My advice to is to go into the natural bodybuilding circles, and start to push the move for more natural contests, magazines, advertising, etc. Doing what you're doing now will get you nowhere and will only get you flamed. We are here to discuss and debate the use of anabolics. Everyone here is a little bit of knowledge and puts it on the table for everyone to see, and the goal is for someone to become more educated on the uses of drugs.

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 05:09 PM            

---

mr.natural kiss mt juicey ass....

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 05:31 PM            

---

You have your opinion Bro! Which I guess is cool, but, it is a minority on this board....probally a majority in the rest of the world.
We...on this board, believe in physical enhancement with the aid of performance enhancing supplements......In other words......There are plenty of places to voice your thoughts on natural BB....this is not one of them.
I think your looking for attention, or business.....unless your a cheap legit, domestic source.....mines taken Bro.....Peace!!

Tis better to die a big mutherfucker.....than a weak one no one will remember in 2 days!!

Ranger

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 05:31 PM            

---

Well, I love it when people throw the word "natural" around. I am sitting here looking at the definition of "natural". I believe in this context it can be either 1) of or existing in or produced by nature or 2) in accordance with nature, normal, ie: a natural death. With the definitions I would like to point out that most, not all but most, steroids are NATURAL products of a human body, or found in nature. I think that you are trying to elucidate the fact that some bodybuilder's are enhanced genetic beings. By using the second definition we can define the use of steroids as not being normal. This is fine, I do not want to be normal. Normal is for people without ambition, people who are automatons controlled by the machine. Go back to whatever you were doing before you decided to get on your soapbox. Give me intelligent thoughtout debate and not just some rant about how to get a "natural" body. I have not yet used AS but I soon will, and I will remain natural. Excuse the rant but before you open your mouth you should exercise the most important muscle of all...your brain.

Platinum

------------------
"Try? There is no try, there is do or do not do." -Yoda

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 05:50 PM         

---

First of all what are your stats and experience. Most of the people on this board were far superior before we even used AS. Maybe some guys were in better shape then you are now when we were natural so you can't talk crap about bb's that us AS.

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 06:19 PM            

---

Get a rope men I say we hang THE TRUE ADONIS.

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 06:24 PM         

---

Damn AlaVol1.... lol
take it easy man...

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 06:36 PM            

---

EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION, EVEN
A BLITHERING IDIOT LIKE THE ADONIS.
NATURAL HUH. DO YOU TAKE CREATINE,NOR
PRODUCTS,VITAMINS,PROTEIN,E/C/A? IF YOU
DO YOU ARE NOT NATURAL. YOU ARE USING
SUPPLEMENTS TO ENHANCE YOUR PHYSIQUE. JUST
BECAUSE YOU DRAW THE LINE AT A/S(SOME
"NATURAL" GUYS ARE ON THE JUICE) THAT
MEANS YOU ARE "NATURAL" BULLSHIT. YOU'LL
USE EVERY "SUPPLEMENT" YOU CAN GET YOUR
HANDS ON.EITHER GO ALL THE WAY OR NOTHING
AT ALL. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU
AND US. WE BOTH ARE UN-NATURAL. WE'RE JUST
BIGGER THAN YOU. BITCH.

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 06:48 PM            

---

GUYS WE CANT BE SO HARD ON THIS FELLOW. I AM SURE HE DOESNT USE ASPIRIN OR ANTIBIOTICS SINCE HE SO AGAINST PHARMACEUTICALS. IT IS NICE TO KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WANTING TO OUR DECISIONS FOR US.IF U CANT COMPETE STAY ON THE SIDELINES WHINING ABOUT HOW EVERYONE WHO CAN CHEATS.

------------------
GETTING BIGGER

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 08:00 PM         

---

I will not be shackled by the failures of your god..

Arminius.

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 08:05 PM            

---

Most naturals like skip mike ohearn and others don't do juice ya right oh ya gh clen cytomel pgf-2 igf-1 insulin are natural still
ya also estrogen because that is all you are gettign in the andro that info came from lee haney's old training partner

------------------
DIe big Die young Dianabol

IP: Logged

posted April 08, 2000 08:23 PM            

---

The current term "natural" in bodybuilding refers to a person that is not using banned substances, ie: anabolics, gh, yadda-yadda, etc. No need to be a smartass.

How natural is creatine? Do you see it growing on trees? Well hell, weed should be considered natural since it you can plant it and it grows from the green earth.

All I'm saying is that if you want to stay "clean" or whatever term suits yourself, then do so. We're not here to preach who's religion is right or better.. am I right?

[This message has been edited by Sittin' On Diesel (edited April 08, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Sittin' On Diesel (edited April 08, 2000).]

IP: Logged

posted April 09, 2000 01:28 AM            

---

First of all if you were truly natural you wouldnt build you body at all you would just sit on you ass and eat and hope for results. I belive that every step you take to improve your body is unnatural. I belive you are pissed because you have pleauted and you now relalize your taken this natural bullshit as far as you can. We all are interested in improving our bodies because we are not happy with there natural state.
I belive that you are here to learn about AS because you wanna be big your just trying to fight the fact that you cant do it without help ie AS. Critizism of other peoples choices by you tells us you are un happy with yourself.
Get some prozac or
Get some AS
And get a life

IP: Logged

posted April 09, 2000 01:33 AM            

---

this guy is fucking with you all,
don't fall for his BS

------------------
--
eFiGy

"conan, what is best in life?"
"TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN!!!"

IP: Logged

posted April 09, 2000 01:39 AM            

---

You are a MORON!!

IP: Logged

posted April 10, 2000 08:32 PM            

---

you know!!!

------------------
RANGERS LEAD THE WAY

IP: Logged

posted April 11, 2000 12:22 PM         

---

Well, I guess I'll be the first to support you. How many people are going to have to die before you rock heads realize that the juice will kill ya if your not careful. I know everyone of you is going to say if its cycled right etc. its harmless. These pros are out of control, i agree that it looks great but its out of hand. People like myself and Adonis, that are focused and disciplined, will be perfectly happly with our acheivements. People that want a great physique and refuse to cheat to get it are more disciplined, goal oriented, successful, and strong willed in the game of life. Success is in the eyes of the beholder.

IP: Logged

posted April 12, 2000 10:30 AM            

---

I've recently approached the titilation associated with gains from steroids, and have come up with a few questions. When you think about it, What's the difference between taking a multiple vitamin and popping a steroid? Both change the chemestry of your body. Or, What's the difference between taking valium for your stress and having an alchocolic beverage? What's the difference between taking a prescription to counteract the side effects of chemo and smoking a joint? I'll tell you what; Pharmaceutical companies, the Government, and Big Brother! I can't see how responsible use of steroids is any different than protein powders. Hell, you can kill yourself on minerals too.

[This message has been edited by JayeLynn (edited April 12, 2000).]

IP: Logged

posted April 13, 2000 12:40 AM            

---

hehehe you must be one of those guys scared of needles HAHAHAHAHAH

IP: Logged

posted April 13, 2000 08:52 AM            

---

Hey man, you're entitled to you're opinion. If you're a title winner then post a pic and you'll probably gain some respect from some people.

IP: Logged

posted April 13, 2000 12:13 PM            

---

Hey, I did a search for Natural Bodybuilding federations and organizations, and the IFBN is not listed anywhere.

This is what I found for the IFBN:
http://www.kj1611av.net/ifbn/

The homepage for the Independent Fundamental Baptist. The mission of The Independent Fundamental Baptist Network is to provide resources and services for independent...

IP: Logged

posted April 16, 2000 09:49 PM            

---

I think this true adonis character is some kinda flake. He subscribes to the ImtryintoprovehowimpressiveIam.com site

IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)