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Deppnade

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posted January 23, 2001 12:22 AM

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seriously, i mean, what we are doing is bettering our appearence, but i think it falls under a sin or something, pride maybe?
you think God approves?? curious on the bro's opinions......

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2Thick

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posted January 23, 2001 12:30 AM

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We sin no matter what we do. That is why we have Christ. He died so we can party and repent through life.

BTW- I only study some theology but I am not religious.


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finallygotlayed

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posted January 23, 2001 12:30 AM

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I think we're using as a means to an end. I don't think jesus would use, but I'm sure he would condone usage. I think those who let roids get the better of their temper may be sinning by continuing to use them, but for those that can handle it and are careful to not do themselves physical harm with them will be rewarded on earth by having a good body and more so in heaven for having taken care of what god gave them. That is my .02 folks.

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Hugh Gellatts

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posted January 23, 2001 12:31 AM

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Jesus was pretty ripped. Must have been all that carpentry work.


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Green

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posted January 23, 2001 12:36 AM

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My God wouldn't care....

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Recoome

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posted January 23, 2001 12:38 AM

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He said "thou shall have no other gods before me, for I am a jealous God". Sooo, I guess it's okay as long as you don't put your body/physique before God..


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Slopain

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posted January 23, 2001 12:39 AM

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I think if Jesus came down hed have more problems to start with than bb'ing he wouldnt get to us in a million years, were right before littering in a public park.

Illegal does not equal immoral - that thinking is very frightening to me.

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finallygotlayed

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posted January 23, 2001 12:42 AM

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good point recoome, I never thought of it that way. I was raised in catholic schools and it bugged the hell out of me how almost everything we do, and even some things we don't do, is a sin. I'm not sure I believe everything the catholic church preaches but I'm still a fairly religous person. I go to church most of the time and all.


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Iron Ghost

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posted January 23, 2001 12:54 AM

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I don't believe in a "religious" God,but a spiritual God.So,no, my God wouldn't mind in the least.
Anway,when you run the two side by side,how many people have died because of steroids,compared to how many have died for their religion?
That's why i believe religion is the biggest piece of manmade crap ever.In my opinion lol.

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Deppnade

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posted January 23, 2001 01:22 AM

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wow, i opened a can of worms huh

i believe as long as you love your neighbor as yourself and are a good person, then all falls into play
so what if we choose to further our bodies because we have a "hobby" of doing so....more power to us, f@ck everyone putting us down for using A.S., why dont they spend the tons of hours i have emailing, buying, learning how to do what i do, they are just lazy and jealous that we have the balls to do it, and we dont just do it, we do it right!!!!!

damn, this roid rage stuff really is getting to me!!!!

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thebull

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posted January 23, 2001 01:34 AM

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he might use them to intimidate the devil even more. j/k I am with 2thick on this one.

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crash3837

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posted January 23, 2001 04:27 AM

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Well this is a hard question. People who use AS are not hurting anyone, or even potentially hurting themselves, unless they are abusing it. Like for instance it is a sin to be drunk, but not a sin to drink, so if you don't abuse it, it is not a sin, you can look at it that way. Or I guess you can look at it this way, if god wanted you to be able to make the gains you make while using AS he would of made mans body do this naturally without AS. I don't know,,, I'm still going to do them.


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lardlad

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posted January 23, 2001 05:19 AM

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personally i think if JESUS came down and read thid board, i would definitely sure that he would approve us members simply because he knows that no one is perfect except him, and look what they did to him for being a perfect man.. why do you think that people go to church and beg Jesus for forgiveness when they comit sin? JESUS die because he is a stand up and a perfect person who die with honor. since he knows by being a perfect man he must face death. so to answer your post, JESUS will not judge us or punish us simply because he knows as long as you follow the 10 commendments then he will approve us BB. do i make any sense?


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Ubermass

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posted January 23, 2001 09:42 AM

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when Jesus returns he will not be with the righteous he will be with the sinners. So where are we, only you know that in your heart. I do know this though he loves us all.

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Jae

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posted January 23, 2001 09:44 AM

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think of it like this, if you were the great creator who would you frown down upon, those taking care of themselves and your great work or the slobs?


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HappyScrappy

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posted January 23, 2001 09:48 AM

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Jesus would come down and say in a soft, subtle but stern voice, "take this to the chat board... bitch"

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riskybiz007

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posted January 23, 2001 10:25 AM

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bro obviously the bible does not say anything about drugs. But it does not condone
1. Addiction
2. Nor does it condone your pride being above others or thinking better of yourself than others
3. Nor does it condone envy, jealousy, or hatrid.
If you're not doing the bad (in regards to your question of AS) you have less to worry about. Because it does not say Thou shall not use AS or supplements, but it does say what i wrote above.
I think more importantly is what kind of person you are and how you live your life, and if you're with him or against him, because there is no in between...


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Kahn

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posted January 23, 2001 10:37 AM

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Hell no, he was an aerobics guy. He'd be on CNN throwing rocks at tanks like the rest of them over there. I think the biggest thing he'd appreciate would be a good set of Nike's so he could toss those ass crippling sandels


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Bush Pig

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posted January 23, 2001 10:43 AM

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I wouldn't worry, Jesus dosen't exist.

God is all forgiving so no worries. I think the big man is "on" anyway. I bet he has never been scammed.


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Work2Bbig

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posted January 23, 2001 11:14 AM

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I have a few disagreements here:

finallygot-thats like saying that some can get drunk and its not a sin if they carry it well. It cannot be based on a double standard, bc god judges equally.

slopain- that are parts of the bible that say not following the laws of the land (US laws) is considered a sin, so then that thinking would be fairly correct (IMO) and you can always argue that people in mex, brazil, etc it is not against the law so why cant I? That would be the test of faith, that we are obedient just bc He said so and not bc it makes sense to us.

crash- so then is that true with everything? If god had not wanted us to do/have something he would have just gave it to us? There are limits in this life and that is a fact, and if God sets them himself (genetics) then are we in the position to surpass that?

lardlad- everything that God says to do is a commandment, we all have to follow the teachings of the bible, not just the ten commandments. Jesus didnt die bc he was perfect, he died for all of our sins.

Ubermass- agreed.

Jae- all fat an lazy people arent bad people, how would you think God would judge by our outward appearance?

Happyscrappy- without the 'bitch' part, you think?

Riskybiz- agreed.

kahn- lol yeah and some socks!

I hope i am not coming off as judgemental, I mean I use gear but I am not sure if it is right. When I commented, I was just pointing out things that maybe you guys (and me too) should look at. I think that we are all addicted, and 80% said 'just one or two cycles and thats all' and look at us now. It is a powerful drug, and it will be up to each and every one of us to figure it out on our own. I think about it alot, this is the only illegal activity I do and I am a fairly string christian, but I wonder if I am wrong. Anyways, awesome post, no flames intended if thats the way it sounded.


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john937

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posted January 23, 2001 11:27 AM

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Wow, I'm really happy to see this.
I was begining to believe this board was populated by athiests, agnostics and satanists (sad).

lol@slopain : we're right before littering in a public park.
Actually, I'd put it AFTER littering...
God gave us bodies for temples,
Exercise is maintaining the temple with what it needs.
I would only consider a sin any use of a drug that damages the temple.


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Work2Bbig

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posted January 23, 2001 11:32 AM

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bump for this post, good read!


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BigPharmBoy

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posted January 23, 2001 11:48 AM

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First of all this kind of question will get people in a heated debate and people will get mad....

Work2bbig--Jesuse Was perfect never sinned..

Yes the Bible wants you to obey the laws of the land but does that mean that we should obey the rule you can't pray in school.. also other countries that say you can't have the Christian relgion does that mean that the people in that land have to obey that law and not read the Bible or worship God???

Anything can be addictive ANYTHING! I just saw an add that says americans watch 26 hours of TV a week that is one full day I think that is an addiction...

Another thing in the Bible is Take care of your Temple meaning your Body so if you are using AAS and getting blood and liver work done and are healthy than you are not sinning there(IMO)... Those people that eat tons of fat and do nothing to help their temples will be judged for this..

I think a lot of people see this as sin but that is because they don't understand it like we do..We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God so if this is a Sin I don't think it is are only one...


I also have thought a lot about this subject and think I will ask around to ministers and see what they think..I will word it a little different then do you thin steroids are a sin.. I am not flamin anyone here so no offense to anyone..

I have a forgiving God how loves me soo much he sent his only son to die for me.. he is a forgiving God, a loving God, and a patient God I know I have sinned before and will sin again but I know that my God will never leave me or forsake me...

I am goin to heaven were I will have a perfect body so why not stive for a perfect body on earth also???

We SIN. God FORGIVES. That is LIFE..

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Jae

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posted January 23, 2001 03:55 PM

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"ass crippling sandals..." Oh god, too funny


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Work2Bbig

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posted January 23, 2001 04:52 PM

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I never said Jesus was imperfect.


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garza

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posted January 23, 2001 05:12 PM

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This post is akward to say the least, I thought the majority of you were atheists/agnostics/free thinkers? Now all of the sudden everyone believes in God? I try to believe in God.....


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crash3837

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posted January 23, 2001 05:34 PM

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Worktobig.So then is that true with everything? If god had not wanted us to do/have something he would have just gave it to us? There are limits in this life and that is a fact, and if God sets them himself (genetics) then are we in the position to surpass that? This I don't know, that is why I said this is a hard subject. I'm not flaming you, and I know your not flaming me. But I think when you start putting this stuff or anything else for that matter befor god that is a sin, or a form of idolism.


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Wombat

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posted January 23, 2001 05:35 PM

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Their is a diff. from what your god sees as right and what society has told you what is right. Look deep down and you will know what is the truth and what is not! You dont need anyone telling or teaching you what they see as the truth.


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Laserdude

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posted January 23, 2001 10:00 PM

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Hell no, he would not approve. I know this because he just told me. He is pissed at all of the churches and if I was a catholic, I would change my association with the catholic
sect of Christianity.

This is just they have so fucking much money and don't take care of the poor people enough. The priests are too concerned about their heavenly pention.

Yea, he would definately not approve.


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