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Steelsoldier

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posted January 22, 2001 11:44 PM

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Evertime i walk in to the gym, i see the same stupid ass fuckers doing the same weight, and looking the same month after month. Reason for for my anger they ask for advice and end up never using it. The only thing that bothers me more than that is the way people sacrifice form for weight(half squats). Does this shit go on everywhere in the world or do these assholes only live and train in Jersey?

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thefacelessballer

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posted January 22, 2001 11:57 PM

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I hear ya. Some people look the same as they did 1 year and a half ago when I changed gyms. They ask me for advice but they dont take it.

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SDLiftinChick

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posted January 23, 2001 06:52 AM

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What I love are the cute little spandex queens that come to the gym with make up on, never break a sweat and treat the place like it is a dating facility. Yeah, I fit in there reeeaaaallll well - sweat dripping off me, my walkman blasting - waiting for them to get their silicone tits off the treadmill. Don't get me wrong - implants are nice but when you are hogging the machines chatting up a storm about how many new pairs of shoes you bought - well - then you are wasting MY time.

End of rant.

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MattTheSkywalker

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posted January 23, 2001 07:12 AM

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Steel,

It happens everywhere. But it's really bad in NJ.


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WODIN

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posted January 23, 2001 07:16 AM

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NJ has the largest asswhole to human ratio on the planet so your going to see more dick headed behavoir.


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Robert W Greene

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posted January 23, 2001 08:10 AM

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Anger lead's to Fear,and fear lead's to the dark side.


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bikinimom

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posted January 23, 2001 08:30 AM

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Dude! Where ya been? We gotta hit the gym and kick some sorry ass!

Last nite it was revealed to me that it was "common knowledge" that I had been "on" since before my first competition because the transformation in my body was just too unbelievable to have been done by diet and training alone! EX-FUCKING-CUSE ME!

Were those idiots there when I PURPOSELY put on a LOT OF WEIGHT (3 bulking cycles in the past year) ie I GOT FAT!....then cardio-ed like a MOTHERFUCKER at FUCKING 6AM....then continued to live on almost fumes for WEEKS?! Yea, salmon and broccoli with a small yam for breakfast, MMMMMm-mmmmmm good! Were they the ones to feel like they were going to pass out while they had to take care of four little kids?! Were they the ones who were sniffing FUCKING JELLYBEANS while they were making FOUR FUCKING EASTER BASKETS?!?!?!

You know what I say - FUCK THEM!

If somebody approaches me and I am in a good mood, I may or may not dispense information that is more in depth than "build mass", but usually I thank them for the compliment and keep walking. If and when they ever get serious.......they will do what I did, seek out an experienced professional to guide them and FUCKING SHUT UP AND JUST DO IT!

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da big thinker

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posted January 23, 2001 08:35 AM

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who the fuck cares about what other people are doing.do what you must do at the gym and get the fuck out partner.you're in there for yourself,not your neighbor.my 0.02$ worth.

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kat

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posted January 23, 2001 08:50 AM

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I can see SS point though..if someone is wasting your time by asking you questions and then refusing to do what is required to solve their problem, then it is very frustrating....it not just a case of looking at these people and laughing at them...now they have wasted YOUR time with their stupidity.


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bikinimom

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posted January 23, 2001 09:32 AM

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Big thinker, Kat is right...in the beginning, when people used to ask me for deit and/or training advice I took it as a wonderful compliment and took a great deal of my own time and effort to try and help these people out.....and believe me when I tell U that there is NO SHORTAGE of "personal trainers" at my primary gym, although only two of the know their assholes from a hole in the ground (to say the least! hehe). Now I find it to be a GREAT NUISANCE because not only are these "New Year's Resolution" or "Oh SHIT! It's almost beach weather" people taking up MY precious gym space (Yes, I actually saw a women leafing through a "women's fitness mag" while on the leg extension FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!! - real intense, that is going to transform her sorry body FOR SURE!!!!) but they are further WASTING MY PRECIOUS TIME by assaulting me with complex questions that they DO NOT want to hear the answers to ANYWAY!

So I have finally wised up and now only reply, "Build mass." without even really bothering to stop what I was doing at the time the particular imbecile acosted me.

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ArtVanderlay

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posted January 23, 2001 09:41 AM

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Who the fuck will ask for advice to a woman who looks like a small man??? Who wants to have a face that looks like a skull???
Cut the narcisism bikinibitch!!!


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da big thinker

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posted January 23, 2001 09:50 AM

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bm,i know how you feel because i "was" in the same boat...when i'm in the gym,i'm in there to train myself...not someone else.when people come and ask me for advise,i reply that i charge 50.00$/hr for personal training...they leave quite quick and probably think i'm an asshole...but i don't go to the gym to win popularity awards.i can understand everyone's frustration on this,but i feel too many people waste so much time and take away precious training time from " themselves ".i guess i was frustrated too @ one point and this is why i feel how i feel.but hey!that's just me.point taken and understood.

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da big thinker

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posted January 23, 2001 09:52 AM

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hey artvanderlay...take a chill pill pal.no need for that...

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Strider

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posted January 23, 2001 10:02 AM

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Art man, DON'T ever diss our BMOM again, or you will be hunted down. There are way too many people on this board with tremendous respect for her. Go find yourself a new fucking home.

BMOM, you cutting again, sounds like you need a few more carbs in you diet . I'll be there in a couple of weeks, after my wifes birthday.

Add one more to the post. We have this dink that discovers some new exercise and spends the next hour walking around making sure everybody has heard about it and how great he is to share. Same old thing, the guy never does any of the basic compound exercises, just these little cute ones, straight out of the muscle mag's rags.

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kat

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posted January 23, 2001 10:04 AM

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ArtVanderley..you open your trap again and this wolverine will eat you and your young for dinner....capice?


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john937

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posted January 23, 2001 10:07 AM

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Two points:
1. You need those people.
Your gym fees don't pay for your gym.
Your gym needs that influx of newbies every year to make the budget.
Your gym membership fees would be a lot higher if only the dedicated were members.
2. Maybe these people are looking for a way to connect with you.
You know,... like... friends? ok, not friends...acquaintences?
Who wants to be a member and spend time in a place where everybody treats you cold and a stranger?
And since they see you're serious,
they figure that's an entree to have something to talk to you, to connect.
TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT TO YOUR SUCCESS!


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Hot Bod

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posted January 23, 2001 10:19 AM

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Obviously, Art Vanderley has no respect for a beautiful hard training woman (and mother). Maybe he should stick around, so he can be tortured!

As far as the the question on the thread. I get the same questions asked more often though at work, and by friends who haven't decided to do what it takes to transform their bodies. I did about a year and a half ago, lost 50 odd pounds of mostly fat, before I started bulking naturally. There's been a few steroid comments that have turned up at the gym, and in the real world. I consider it a compliment, but I didn't cheat I did it all on hard work and nutrition.

The good news is that some people have actually started doing what it takes to transform their bodies. Some never will, but will always be excuse makers. No one had a better excuse than me. I had to have a total knee replacement 20 months ago, at age 38, and couldn't walk for 6 weeks. If I can do it, anyone can.

I think I'll just tell the same people that keep asking the same questions to just stop making excuses and get it done!


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The Shadow

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posted January 23, 2001 10:28 AM

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I feel your pain, SS. i just won 20 bucks off a guy who said that I couldn't burn more than 450 calories in 15 minutes on the treadmill. Idiot.


As far as the slams on BM - let me be very clear about this:

It seems to me that the only men who are intimidated by a fit woman are the ones who are not secure with their own masculinity. My motto is this: " A hard woman is good to find"



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Mad Max

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posted January 23, 2001 10:30 AM

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I guess every gym has those people. The only thing that gets me reeeeeeeaaaally pissed is when people stare at you as you lift. It make me want to throw my weights at their heads.Every one looks at you at least once when someone is lifting heavey but don't sit there at stare like an ass. Man does that get me mad. ---PEACE---Mad Max


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riptchick

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posted January 23, 2001 10:36 AM

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Art, a bit of advice, hold your tongue on the unwarranted comments. Obviously, you do not find beautiful, fit women attractive but that is no reason to spew your hatred....

Back to the topic at hand, I think the only thing worse is getting advice from someone who looks like crap so that they can strike up conversation. Geesh, I told my hubby last night it must be time for me to get ripped again. Some teenage boy comes over to me and tells me that it is easier to do dips if I use the assisted dip machine. NO duh!

Maybe I look like a fat chick (I'm bulking) hehehehe.

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The Shadow

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posted January 23, 2001 10:42 AM

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Riptchick - I hear ya girl. An aerobics-only type chick was asking my wife about her training routine and diet. When my wife mentioned that her first priority was the weights and then cardio, the woman lookes at her and said - " Well, I don't want to get bulky." The woman is 5'4" and about 105 pounds. For reference, my wife is 5'4" and weighs 120, but she wears size 2 clothes.

I don't know - it seems like women in particular are the worst folks about following advice. Persent company excluded of course


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bikinimom

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posted January 23, 2001 11:10 AM

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To all of my brothas and sistas at Elite...I can't put anything over all yall. I must confess, I am cutting, hehe. Your kind and supportive words are appreciated more than you will ever know.

As 4 U Mr Art "I Wish I could get layed" PUCKER UP AND KISS MY ROCK HARD ..... .

I know that you must find a women with arms that are as big (or bigger I'm sure, hehe) than yours quite threatening. But you have nothing to fear. I have been (and will continue to be) happily married for well over ten years now. And my hubby though is not competitive, shares my passion for the wieghts with equal fervor. My FOUR daughters are proud of their mother indeed.

So you see, I am quite happy with my own accomplishments and there is nothing that you can say or do that will change that.

Have a nice day!

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Steelsoldier

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posted January 23, 2001 12:05 PM

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Bikinimom, beautifully said. As far as training lets start with getting in touch with eachother, Give F.C a call or i'll tell her to drop you a line. By the way nice tail

Kat....how have you been? Whats new?

Matt and Wodin, i knew this shit only goes on in Jersey.


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Steelsoldier

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posted January 23, 2001 12:13 PM

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Bump for Bikinimom!

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kat

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posted January 23, 2001 12:17 PM

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Hey SS honeybun, things are pretty good. how bout you? Still with the pretty girl?


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Steelsoldier

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posted January 23, 2001 12:20 PM

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Doing well Kat.....still with that girl. Just been working and working out, what else is there in life? Except in your case music. Hows your man? You know i was thinking to myself why doesn't he train?

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kat

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posted January 23, 2001 12:29 PM

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LOL..he and I were just talking about that. He thinks its boring...he'd rather play soccer or something like that, so since he and my brother were both soccer fanatics Im trying to get them to join a mens league or something. I dont know how good the boy was, but my brother was going semipro and then decided against it.

I dont care either way though...hes free to do as he wishes...I love him the way he is.


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Steelsoldier

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I also feel the same, but wouldn't you want him to experience the same feeling you do when you train. It's addicting, and i wanted to share my love for training with someone. So i started her about a year ago and the rest is history!

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kat

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posted January 23, 2001 12:42 PM

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Actually no. To me its a personal, private thing and I dont even like talking about it with people I know here at home who work out. I dont mind sharing my progress, but I trust very few peoples opinions and everyone has one.


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bikinimom

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Hey Steel, I just put in a call to headquarters and hopefully I'll be able to drag the hubby for a FOR REAL hurtin' session with the immortals: FC, IG, and SS. hehe

Seriously, though, for the first time in my life I'm having difficulty staying focused and motivated. I MISS YAZ!

Kat, I hear ya.

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Zebo

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posted January 23, 2001 01:01 PM

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When someone bugs you with questions, just look at them at say "Archives!" hehe


ps. Art, don't ever fucking say that again..

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Steelsoldier

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posted January 23, 2001 01:02 PM

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Was that you leaving that long messsage, i don't pick up her line, but thought i heard your voice. Then again who knows since your the queen of messing around and voice altering. That would be cool come with us today we are doing chest......i think. Well let me know.

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The Varnsen

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Worst than that are the guys that, only because they�re big, think they know everything and feel the need to give advice to everyone... Damn most of them are big because they�re genetically gifted... And even worst are the small men who, only because they have some ripped bodyparts, are always watching themselves in the mirror and talking to the big guys that girls always go for the small ripped fellar...


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Checkmatebloated

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Hey Steel. One time I was backing off the cage rack(power rack) with around 750lbs and doing 1/4 squats for triples after doing my heavy deep squats so I could get used to the feel of stepping off with the weight and the feel of pushing that kind of weight. I could not do a legal squat, but that was part of my routine to continue my rise in weight. Anyway this average size guy I would guess 5ft 10in about 180lbs comes to me and says. Man you are wasting you time you need to go all the way down. I got really pissed and said how much can you squat? He said if I do those half knee bends like you I can do more than that. Well I said why don't you do that once. He tightned up his little leater stap belt and could not even budge off the rack. I told him I can squat bench more than he squats and get the hell out of here. he left the area and never said another word to me for about 2 years until I quit going to that Club(not gym)..

It was funny as shit, because all the guys spotting me heard and saw the entire thing.

I know this has nothing to do with your story, but the quarter squat thing reminded me of this idiot.


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superdave

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posted January 23, 2001 11:45 PM

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Bikinimom please make that ass pic your sig so I may jerk off on a regular basis to it. Thanks you for your consideration in this matter.

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Curious George

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posted January 24, 2001 01:06 AM

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Art...you're an asshole...Get off the board kid.

As for the people, I just sort of mind my own business now that I switched gyms. I used to work at a Supplement store that was perhaps the best in the state. I was the guy that people would ask advise on diet, training, etc. I worked out maybe a mile from the store and I would get bombarded with questions during my workout. I don't mind giving help when I was at work, but in the gym is "My Time."

I have since moved and am loving the opportunity to just train again. I did get scared the other day when somebody asked me if I worked at the store. I just said no, wasn't me and did my set.

I like to help people, but "My Time is My Time."

Art...again you are an asshole!


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