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JustinM

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posted December 26, 2000 11:28 PM

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This guy (who i trust) at my gym gave me this supplement by pinnacle. It is called Gro Tropin. It contains glutamine peptide, Furostanol Saponins, Alpha-Glycerylphosphoryl Choline, and Standardized Platelet Derived Growth Factor. Does anyone know what this is besides glutamine and how and when to take it. thanks peace

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JohnnyO

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posted December 26, 2000 11:41 PM

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I found this.

Colostral Isoform Extract (CIE). Naturally derived from milk, it adds powerful platelet derived growth factor (PDGF). The importance of PDGF to muscle growth is underscored by the fact that receptors for PDGF occur in all muscles. Plus, for any substantial increase in muscle growth to occur, angiogenesis (the growth of new blood vessels) must take place to afford appropriate circulation and nutrient delivery to new muscle tissue. Hence, many consider PDGF to be "the real muscle juice", more so than the much-publicized IGF-1.

Chrysin & Tribulus. These two substances complete GroTropin's remarkable growth formula. Both have been proven in numerous studies to positively influence natural testosterone production and metabolism for even greater benefits than ever before.


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JustinM

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posted December 26, 2000 11:42 PM

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thanks Johnny0

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[This message has been edited by JustinM (edited December 26, 2000).]


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JustinM

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posted December 27, 2000 12:17 AM

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bump

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Badkins21

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posted December 27, 2000 12:31 AM

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It's just another rip-off "natural" supplement that gets all hyped up by oil-filled pro's...hope you didn't give him any $$ for it...as far as OTC shit, stick with creatine, glutamine peptides (cheap as hell at www.proteinfactory.com ), protein, and maybe some MRPs and bars...

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JustinM

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posted December 27, 2000 12:59 AM

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got it for free

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Hugh Gellatts

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posted December 27, 2000 01:00 AM

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ahhh....the day I discovered that steroids were cheaper than supplements, and 20 times more effective.


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JustinM

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posted December 27, 2000 11:08 AM

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bump

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BigTruck

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posted December 27, 2000 11:11 AM

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It's probably garbage:

List the exact amount of each ingredient per serving.

Even if it contains what it says it does, it is likely in not enough quantity or high enough quality to be effective.

I mistrust Pinnacle, I don't like the way they market -- too EASish...

At least you didn't pay for it...


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JustinM

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posted December 27, 2000 11:14 AM

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everything is 500mg's of all 4 things listed above, i got it for free and i want to make use of it so that is why i am bothering..the bottom of the bottle says supreme secretagogue stack...thanks

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BigTruck

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posted December 27, 2000 11:18 AM

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How many servings is the bottle? How many servings do they recommend per day?


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JustinM

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posted December 27, 2000 11:20 AM

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well in order to have the 500mg's you need to have 3 capsules. there are 30 servings of three capsules so there are 90 pills in total. they smell like ass (chocolatty).

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BigTruck

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posted December 27, 2000 11:26 AM

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There's not enough there to do anything --

chrysin needs to be taken at up to 6 grams per day, plus it needs to be high-quality chrysin which is bright yellow as opposed to brownish

glutamine needs to be taken at 5 - 10 grams a day. It should also be in the L form for greatest efficacy

colostrum does contain IGF1, but there is disagreement as to whether it makes it through the human digestive track intact. In any case, you take it like any other protein, which would require at least 20 gram servings

tribulus quality varies in quality depending on the time that it's harvested and what part of the plant is harvested. I can't remember what the formula for TT intake is but this might be the one thing you would be able to get enough of -- providing you take 12 pills a day for six to eight weeks...


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madbomber31

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posted December 27, 2000 11:38 AM

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PINNACLE IS A JOE WEIDER COMPANY... enough said...

but supplements are still worth it to some... especially the eca type products... not all those natural supps suck... take zmass, i like it a LOT!! pinnacle on the other hand.....


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JustinM

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posted December 27, 2000 12:09 PM

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well im gonna take it because it was free and it cant cause me to loose muscle but when should i take it, before gym, after gym, nite, morn??

thanks

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BigTruck

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posted December 27, 2000 12:33 PM

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Take 12 per day, divided into 3 or 4 doses


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JustinM

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posted December 27, 2000 02:26 PM

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but then i only have like 8 days worth of it, do u think it is worth it to blow them all awa over 8 days??

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