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bikinimom

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posted February 12, 2001 12:03 PM

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I've been wondering about this, it seems that as women approach their late 20's/early 30's they become more like men in bed ie more fucking (not "making love"....please spare me the semantics, I've been married since Jesus Christ walked the earth so let's not go there), no desire to cuddle, just let me get off and get OFF OF ME. hehe

Why do you ladies think this is? Is it because we are no longer in "procreation mode" and we give so much of ourselves to those around us that we just want more for ourselves?

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nitetrane

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posted February 12, 2001 12:43 PM

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I'm not one of the ladies, but if that is you in the pic, you are incredible. Please, absolutley NO disrespect here. If I'm outa' line, tell me so.


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StoneColdGold

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posted February 12, 2001 12:47 PM

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not a lady either. just thought i'd mention that not all guys are just into "fucking." There are men with emotional mentalities as well.


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WODIN

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posted February 12, 2001 12:47 PM

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It's because your test levels are increasing and your estrergoen levels are decreasing. Or you could just be a horn dog...

Oh, and I'm no lady!

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bikinimom

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posted February 12, 2001 01:03 PM

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No disrespect taken...and yes, it is me in the pic.

But getting back to the topic at hand. What I meant was...men can generally separate a sex act from an emotional act more easily than women (not EVERYONE, just in general). I am quite surprized that women who had never wanted to or were never able to do this in the past seem to be able to do it with ease as they approach the age range previously stated.

I was just wondering if this was due to physiological changes (as Wodin suggested) or environmental changes (the question of procreation no longer being an issue) or emotional changes (feeling that we have given, given, given so much that we now want to take more for ourselves).

Any ladies?......guys you can reply also, I'm curious about what your take on this is. If you've been in a long-term committed relationship with a woman through her 20's on up, have you noticed this change?

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Dlady27

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posted February 12, 2001 01:12 PM

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And here I was thinking that I was the ONLY one who thought this way lately !!!

makes me wonder too?!?!!??!


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new@gettinbig

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posted February 12, 2001 01:36 PM

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I think as women get older we become more independent and realize we do not need a man in order to have happiness and it comes from within us. We become more self-confident and sure of ourselves and less dependent upon our men. We live and learn and some experiences make us hard and changes our attitudes and emotions. When you are young its all about story book romance and your knight in shining armor.. we thrive upon that and fall into that sort of love so to speak. I also think we become more aware of our own sexuality and what pleases US and what satisfies our bodies I think we evolve and change as we get older, different wants and needs. Good question??? Makes ya think


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BIG RICK ROCK

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UMMMMM, so what we are saying here is that women in their late 20's and early 30's are more likely to have a "fling" you know "no strings attached sex" ??? that at this stage women can have sex with someone they do not love or have any type of feelings for??? Ummm very interesting.


PS: how come you took the GIF out of your sign??? didn't like it anymore?


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kat

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Ive been like that since I was 17 and lost my virginity ironic part is, all the guys Ive dated have cOMPLAINED about this WTF???
In fact, yesterday, the BF was whining I dont kiss him enough.....kiss, shmish...I work, bring home the bacon, put out often, do domestic shit I cant stand (like washing dishes and laundry)and he whines about kissing. Jesus!

....I was sooo looking forward to my sex drive increasing but that hasnt happened yet. Im pissed....


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nitetrane

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My wife and I have been together for 17 years, she was 16 and I 18 when we met, been married 10 now. You are right when you say things tend to cool off a bit for the women, I think, after a while, although she was one to want to "cuddle", it seems those aspects were always there, but they just weren't for me I guess. She has made noises because of MY sexual needs, to often. But I say it's environmental, not for just the woman, but the man as well. We works full time, we have 2 kids etc. etc. We had something really amazing happen a few weeks back, it was like falling in love again for the first time (maybe the clomid, hehe)but it has been wonderful since. I am helping more around the house, she seems to have cranked her sexual needs up quite a bit. There just seems to be more respect now than a few weeks before. And the sex, WOW, is better than ever. Finally, the PASSION is back, this I seem to need. Did I go off track here.....hehehe.


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bikinimom

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posted February 12, 2001 03:28 PM

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Oh Brotha BRRock ....I LOVE THE GIF. The problem is for some reason when it won't show up in my posts unless I go back after hitting the submit button and editing the post. You'll see that the gif still appears in posts that I have edited.

I don't get it. Whenever I edit a post neither the pic OR the gif show up, the codes get all messed up and I have to RE-EDIT the whole damned thing just to have the sig appear!

I gotta call you anyways.....I got your message. I'm planning on bein' in your town tomorrow, perhaps we could have a little meet. You've got my cell.

To the others....so I am not the only one. I concurr w/Sista New...FUCK the fairy tale..I'm happy with the REAL WORLD!

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Steelsoldier

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posted February 12, 2001 04:27 PM

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Ah Bikinimom.....figured i would find you here

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Stew Meat

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posted February 12, 2001 06:20 PM

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I'm 22 and my GF is 24 and I get pissed off at here because she gets off and leaves me hanging. After she gets off, she totally looses interest in me. I guess I'm the same way, but when I go off, the reason I don't keep on is because I'm not physically capable. She is...

This wouldn't be the problem if she didn't get off in 3 MINUTES!!!!! I hate to say that I complain about that, most guys would love to have a girl that did that.
She's been with 2 other guys and I'm the first one to give her an orgasm. Of course, I do have an edge over the others (I used to do porn), but it pisses me off. I don't know whether to just not make her feel good or what. It worries me that if we get married our sex life would suck because she can't control her orgasms...


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sling blade

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I've been married 13 years, and my wife has definatly changed her sexual outlook, when she got to be around 28 or so. she started wanting sex all the time no love just sex.
She also "became" Bisexual...she just likes to fuck now...

hey i'm not complaining here i think it's great..

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blueyedkowgrl

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posted February 12, 2001 06:36 PM

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well i am in my mid 20's okay 25 to be exact and i have always been able to seperate the two. I don't know why. making love is one thing and sex is another. Making love has all these things attached, feelings etc. and sex is just pure fun! I have been told many times that i should have been a guy!


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skydancer

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posted February 12, 2001 06:40 PM

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The way I look at it is you "make love" when you are NOT in the bedroom. You "fuck" between the sheets.

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posted February 12, 2001 06:47 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by bikinimom:
I've been wondering about this, it seems that as women approach their late 20's/early 30's they become more like men in bed ie more fucking (not "making love"....please spare me the semantics, I've been married since Jesus Christ walked the earth so let's not go there), no desire to cuddle, just let me get off and get OFF OF ME. hehe

Why do you ladies think this is? Is it because we are no longer in "procreation mode" and we give so much of ourselves to those around us that we just want more for ourselves?


I think its because older women are more comfortable with their sexuality. If a young woman lets a man know that she wants to get off just as bad as he does, then he might call her a whore. Young women are more worried about their reputation. Older women dont give a damn and just want to get theirs.


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The Ranger

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I read this post several times....I guess I had to add a little something or another....

For me, getting older made me truly appreciate the smaller things that made up a woman, the faint taste of wine on her lips as you kiss,and you can still taste it the next day, the way she closes her eyes into passionate slits just before, how she will tilt her head up and look you in the eye as you slow dance, the nape of her neck, with a scent of perfume that lingers well into the night, all these things are so wonderous now, the way a woman will scrunch up her nose as she ponders a question you have asked....

When I was younger, it was all about sex, get it done quickly and gloat about it...if only I knew.....true passion is everything that leads up to the physical side of a man and a woman, with out it...yup, it's just a fuck per sey!!!

I am still in awe at the way a woman can express herself with her hands and be sexy about it, how she looks in one of my shirts, getting up early and not afraid to kiss right off the bat, the small divot under her nose that leads to her lips...all of these things make up a woman.....

And you ask BM if it gets like this with age....I enjoy every second I am with someone, sex, great if it happens....but I have had some great woman whom I think ever so fondly of, and nothing physical happened, that mystique alone shall set them apart, unequal, forever in my mind....

Wish I wasn't so blind when I was younger, don't wear glasses, but I see the picture much more clearly now...

It's all good Darl'in........

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posted February 12, 2001 08:34 PM

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Women hormonally peak and are now beginning the down side of their reproductive years.

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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted February 12, 2001 08:40 PM

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awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, Ranger you Sugar Plump, I was touched by your post, drop me an e-mail so we can chat, i don't klnow what e-mail account you are using now otherwise I would e-mail you.


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The Ranger

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BRR,

I said with women...you can bite me....heh heh heh

[email protected] or icq number 67366885 and if ya thought that was mushy, you're gonna luv this'un....


My Prayer to You


The pain I feel
On the surface
And deep within me
Is all to real
To hear the sorrow
In your voice
Haunts my very soul

I want so badly
To reach out my hand
In your time of need
To be your shoulder to cry on
But I can only watch and listen
As your heart bleeds

My fears and tears
All well up inside me
Wanting and needing
To vent the frustration
That is eating at the very
Core of myself

The only consolation is
The visions of the future
Which I hold in dreams
The one ideal that saves me
From the looming insanity

The tears that fall
And streak your face
Will fall no more
For I will soon emerge
And shatter this sadness

We will triumph and
Resurrect your smile
Never to be lost again�

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blueyedkowgrl

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posted February 12, 2001 09:39 PM

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boy oh boy ranger, now you've done it! and my husbands not even home! What's a girl to do? I guess re-read your 1st post and well.....!


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new@gettinbig

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posted February 12, 2001 09:46 PM

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Awww Ranger has a sensitive side You are teasing us ladies with your kind, gentle words.


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kgyenge

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This is a good one for me. I am 28 and my husband and i have been together for 7 yrs. I posted earlier in the womens disc. under "My Hsband Broke His Neck." He broke his neck and has had some sexual probs. Not a real concern anymore as far as getting off. Back to the subject at hand, I used to love to be cuddled after sex (and still do) but in the last few months I have no problem with hopping the fuck off (after he is taken care of that is). But when I did it you should have seen the look on his face. It looked like a little kid being told there was not Santa Clause. A look of disbelief. The funny thing was, I didn't care, I didn't feel bad. Hell he has done it why not me. The only way I can explain this is maybe because a man's sexual peek is from around 17-22 yrs. and a women's peek really starts at 28 or 29-33 yrs.old. When a guy is really at his peek at that age what the fuck do they know (really) what a woman wants (cuddling and so forth) they are horn dogs that have to get their rocks off as quick and as often as possible. Now I know that there are guys out there and possibly on this board that DO take care of their women (at that age) and this does not apply to them I am speaking of the majority. I don't know if this is a logical point but it was all I could think of and I think I'm gonna just hop right the fuck off again tonight, I'm tired. KG


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Blue eyes....ya got me ah blush'in again.....

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It all depends on how I feel that day!
Somedays I want alot of hugging and kissing
and touching!
And others I want to go wild and have SEX!!
But, things have change since I was younger.
I use to be kind of shy in bed. I didn't want the guy to think I was to wild. ( I thought he might think I was a BAD GIRL); goes back with how I was raised!
And I didn't know what I wanted or how to feel good. But, now I know what I want and I know how to feel good. And it seems like when you are more self confident; you really turn the guy on!! And that's a great feeling.
I love getting older!!


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bikinimom

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posted February 13, 2001 06:43 AM

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Ranger, I am speechless.

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The Ranger

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Don't be speechless Darl'in....it's ever so easy to express yourself on a computer screen, the true test is being able to do it on a more intimate basis.....within that realm is where you find yourself....

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blueyedkowgrl

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you know ranger, you are either one of the nicest guys or the biggest bull shitter! and if you are the biggest bull shitter feel free to keep right on bs'in me baby!!


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~*~OneKikAssWoman~*~

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posted February 13, 2001 08:48 AM

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I'm with blueyes on this...


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Ranger how old are you? If I may ask? Very sensual man indeed!

I think our sexual appetites do change as we age.

My husband and I have switched our roles as we have aged it seems. He tends to want the tender loving and I want the wild sex he wanted when we first met. Communication on our needs has made sex great throughout these changes. Him being MORE emotional and me less. We both feel comfortable with the changes as well.

Now when he wants to cuddle in bed I know that he really does not want to HOG the damn bed, he wants to be reassured I still love him. I just have to think back when we first married and what I thought "love making" meant.


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Vixen,

I just turned 34 despite popular belief....heh heh heh....and I do agree, the roles seem to change as each other age....

Bullshitter...at times, yes...BUT, when it comes to true feelings of the heart, you're only bullshitting yourself in the end...

Nope....when I am with a woman, whether for dinner, movie, or dancing...I try to make her feel every bit the woman she is, and I have found that good southern manners, being polite and sensitive, with just a touch of humor and charm will get you much further in life than a great body....BUT, having both helps...<wink>!!!

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Ranger, nice posts bro......I couldn't have said it any better, I agree with you 100%. I tend to be on the passionate side myself when it comes to a woman. I say you can take everything away from me in my life (not including my children) just leave me with my wife. I need women. I find they are the best of friends to have. I wonder if it's in the age bro....I'm 34. Although I've been this way all my life. Women are the greatest of all creatures put on this earth.


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I think that there a lot of sesitive guys on this board. My husband and I have had this dicussion several times. He has told me the same, "you can take whatever it is that you want, but leave me my wife." We are best friends. We have also gotten into discussions regarding death. He can't talk about it, what would he do without me, and I without him. That is the power of unconditional love, I hope everyone finds it in their life there is nothing like it, for someone to love and charish you no matter what. KG


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Amen,KG!


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I agree KG....Because of that, I am forever seeking.....

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posted February 13, 2001 02:14 PM

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OOOOOO B-Mom, will you marry me or at least have talk to my gf so i can get some damn sleep?


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sling blade

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Oh shit here he goes, watch out ladies, ole
Ranger has been telling girls this stuff from back in the 80s. you can always tell a female soldier who fell for a Ranger Poem,they were the ones who walked bow-legged for a week...ahahhaaaa.he's 6'4 and lets say well you know, he'll hurt ya...
and thats the truth, you know it brother...


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kat

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Awwww Jaysus,,......you mean the drummer boy is just gonna get WORSE as he gets older???

Man, he's a sap already and hes only 23....
guess I'd be upset if he wasnt like that though...it allows me to be the tough guy.


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The Ranger

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I know who you are now Sling, ya gave yourself away.....

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if my wife looked like bikini mom i wouldnt care if she told me to get off after she got off, i would still enjoy it

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sling blade

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HAHAHAH. YOU KNOW IT'S ME,
Remember the parties in savannah, oh man you could talk any woman into leaving with us..

THIS GUY IS DANGEROUS LADIES....!!!

PEACE


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interesting.


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The Ranger

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Sling,

You are right, and as I said in my earlier post..." When I was younger..."

I do wish I had some of those nights to re-live, the subtle thickness of the humidity on the early summer's eve, the smell of the Savannah River as you walked the cobblestone streets of River Street, the Spanish Moss swaying gently in the breeze....all this was GRAND!!! And yes my friend, we did have our share of good times, some of the best in fact!!!

I still keep in touch with the " One " and you still know her I'm sure....One of the worst things I ever did was let her slip through my fingers....Drop me a mail with your Phone Number, be good to hear from ya, and talk old times again....

Remember this one.....???


If I Had

If only I had just one more time,
And if I could live that moment again.

If only I could try once more,
And go against tradition.

If only I ignored my past ruminations,
And paid more attention.

Rather than let you slip away,
If only I had stopped and listened.

Then maybe I wouldn�t feel this way,
If only I hadn�t filled my self with.

Selfish doubts,
Concentrating on a way out.

Maybe then I would of realized sooner,
I could have had you.

Ranger

Peace Bro....Talk to ya soon......



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blueyedkowgrl

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I can see why ranger could charm the pants off 'em. Mine are off!!! lol j/k


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BIG......BIG.....BIG.....<blush>!!! Damn Blue Eys, my face is redder than a Robins ass in a pokeberry patch....

Bet your sitt'n there grinning like a mule eat'n briars.....heh heh heh

I do have my moments, BUT....There is nothing on Gods green earth that can compare to the smile of a woman who knows how you feel about her....it is different, and a truly amazing thing!!!!!

Ranger


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wrlord

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I think it's a myth about men wanting to get off and women wanting to cuddle. Hell, most women I know only want one thing, and when they've had their cookie all they want is to take off. Only way to keep em around is more cookies.
Lotsa guys are sensitive and affectionate. And women don't want em.


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The Ranger

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I tend to agree, but it is defined by the moment at hand more often than not......

Ranger


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blueyedkowgrl

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Sometimes it's an all out roll in the hay (you know shirt buttoned wrong and straw in your hair, i know you've been there ranger <wink,wink> ) or it could be the most sensual sexual experience. all depends on the situation. there both good!


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Trudat Blue Eyes.....

Ranger


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riptchick

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Ranger, you DO have a way with words. Gotta love a guy with fluid-like passages and the ability to create imagery with words. I bet you'd give Danielle Steele a run for her money.

Always kinda been a cold fish, myself. I'm just too damn tired and stressed to think about it. But when the opportunity does strike me it is exactly like this... "Ok, I'm done, now let's wrap things up." A far cry to my..."just hold me days." :P See what 33 does to a woman. heh heh


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Frackal

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quote:
Originally posted by sling blade:
HAHAHAH. YOU KNOW IT'S ME,
Remember the parties in savannah, oh man you could talk any woman into leaving with us..

THIS GUY IS DANGEROUS LADIES....!!!

PEACE


I think I guessed your identity as well.


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Shrebly

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Sometimes you have to just "go do it" - no head games or mind fucks. I know there were many a night I went out just to have fun BUT there were nights when I would just use a guy for sex and leave him without so much as a goodbye. I got to a point where I was sick of the lines and bullshit and figured I might as well be who I am and not try to act like a "goody goody".

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I don't care what you say... and iguanodon is NOT an Italian mobster lizard.


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