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Excerpt: HI there!!! I was wondering if any woman here that never took steroids or pro hormones is used any test booster like tribulus and humanovar. I have had the opporunity to see quite a bit that used tribex and humanovar with good results. Thanks in advance Ryce

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    Women and Test Boosters

    HI there!!!

    I was wondering if any woman here that never took steroids or pro hormones is used any test booster like tribulus and humanovar. I have had the opporunity to see quite a bit that used tribex and humanovar with good results.


    Thanks in advance
    Ryce

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    Originally posted by WarLobo
    How can test boosters work when women don't make test is same manner as males?
    but they do produce right?
    And I think any minor improvement may make a difference in women that we don't see in men.

    Waiting for more inputs.....

    Thing is, they happen to work in real world from dozens of experiences.

    Also WAR, It depends on what you define by work......

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    Originally posted by WarLobo
    Heck, I was just wanting to learn how they "work". Never heard of two you mentioned and was hoping you could explain and give us some information how they "work" - by whatever definition you want to use. And since you have dozens of experiences, I figured you provide some details as it seems (from the lack of reponces) we don't have any women here that have used them.
    Hi War!!

    Thanks for taking the time to post. I am really trying to catch up on many things and since I am not as competent as you ( well generally that's a male X female issue) I fall behind the posts.
    There is a similar topic been discussed at elite. please take a look.
    http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum...hreadid=174034

    I will post a complete response ASAP.

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    The two products you mentioned (tibulus and Humanovar) are pretty unlikely to have any positive effect on female test production unless you have an actual deficiency in DHEA....in which case I suspect it would be cheaper to just take DHEA!

    As far as I can tell from the marketing guff, you can get the same benefits of Humanovar from just eating raw, fertilized chicken eggs.

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    Originally posted by MS
    The two products you mentioned (tibulus and Humanovar) are pretty unlikely to have any positive effect on female test production unless you have an actual deficiency in DHEA....in which case I suspect it would be cheaper to just take DHEA!

    As far as I can tell from the marketing guff, you can get the same benefits of Humanovar from just eating raw, fertilized chicken eggs.
    Well that's your opinion but news are that they DO work in the real world whether you like it or not.
    I think it is a valid point that DHEA deficiency may imply in major benefit since all women that had the most surprising results were the ones with 20% or More BF. I think 23% or more would even reflect actually more accurate numbers. I have no experience with young women( all subjects I know that tried trib. and Humanovar) and DHEA so I can NOT "suspect" anything.

    Regarding eating raw eggs and getting the same benefits that Humanovar MAY provide is something that someone with your intelligence might say only in the Joke's board or if you intentionally want to down play the product. You may get salmonella though

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    Originally posted by WarLobo
    Oh, I can see this is going to go down hill fast now. LOL. But it did last a bit last a bit longer than I thought.... hehehe

    I just couldn't let this slip by
    I am trying to gather some of my anedoctal data and will put it here.

    for more "bonafide" replies on the subject check the supp. board.

    http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum...hreadid=174034

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    "Well that's your opinion but news are that they DO work in the real world whether you like it or not. "

    It's NOT my opinion, it's a fact that supplementing DHEA (or tribulus which effectively does the same thing) will NOT help increase your test production UNLESS you are actually deficient in DHEA. If you suspect this is your case, then please get a a blood test from your doc to test your DHEAS levels first. Why waste money on expensive supps that 99% of young, healthy women don't need and won't benefit from. BTW the same applies to young males. If you are over 40 years old, then you are more likely to get some benefit, but again it is cheaper an more reliable to just take DHEA (or test if that's what you want floating around in your body rather than estrogen).

    " Regarding eating raw eggs and getting the same benefits that Humanovar MAY provide is something that someone with
    your intelligence might say only in the Joke's board or if you intentionally want to down play the product. You may get
    salmonella though"
    This is not a joke. Our ancestors no doubt got a nice androgenic boost from finding a nest of some poor birds eggs and scoffing the whole lot (raw) in one sitting. It is sad how far human nutrition has wandered from what was once healthy and natural. The salmonella issue is really just another case where you should be very careful about the source, age and quality of you food stuff. Eggs are fantastic food, and cooking them destroys many of the best aspects of them (such as the omega 3 fats you would get from free-range, green fed chickens, biotin etc...). But my real beef is that so many people will rely on anecdotal info when there is a TOTAL lack of ANY scientific, peer reviewed info on some new gimmicky product out of Eastern Europe. So please don't bother enlightening me with people's reports of great results. I've been around long enough to remember boron, HMB, androstenedione and a host of other supps that were heavliy marketed as the "bees knees" and a LOT of people took them and reported great results. It's called the placebo effect and I suggest you read up on it if you're not familiar with it. If and when the company that markets humanovar wishes to share all of their research data with the rest of the scientific world so that we can evaluate it's legitimacy, then get back to me. Right now all they will tell us it that it contains "oligopeptides". Ummmm, almost all protein contains oligopeptides, and those that don't are soon broken down to oligopeptides via digestion.

    Anyway, that link you gave was for a discussion on pro-hormones other than tribulus or Humanovar, so I'm not sure what your question is, or what kind of answer you're expecting from us??

    For the record, the placebo effect can be VERY strong, so if you REALLY believe you will get great results from the newest and hottest supp on the market, then you should take it because chances are it WILL work if you believe hard enough.

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    Lesson from this post - MS knows her stuff! :-) And better yet, can back it up.

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    To be more open-minded about this topic, I will admit that I have never used either supplement. But why would I? Honestly, and I'm trying to be helpful here ryce, it is a supplement that I cannot find ANY scientific backing for (or against). This doesn't mean it's no good, but "a fool and her money are soon parted". Maybe if they could be a *little* more specific about exactly what they are selling you and how they have shown it to be anabolic in humans, then we could have a decent conversation on it's merits.....

    Steroidal saponins from Tribulus have never been shown to increase Test levels in normal young males, and if they have any impact at all on women (at very high doses not found in commercial supplements) it is to increase estrogen and ovulation, and insignificantly increase test levels. Of course, if you have an imbalance of estrogen (deficiency in particular) then you may notice improvements in LBM, libido, etc... by increasing estrogen to normal female levels. But don't kid yourself that women who report these side effects are experiencing a 'testosterone anabolic boost'. Like wise, high doses of purified extracts may be mildly vasodilatory, which can improve erectile dysfunction in males in a similar way that viagra does. Again this does not mean that test levels have gone up anymore than taking viagra increases test levels.

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