No I used to have an interest in PLing but not really anymore but I still care about my strength and numbers my bench has sucked for some time now and and trying to strength my ticeps to help bring my bench back up. I took some sugesstions from Bfold I really like the tate press and rolling DB a lot. JM press I need work on it feels like I am doing it wrong.curgeo said:QT, are you doing powerlifting? I don't know many bodybuilders who do tate and jm presses? Excellent stuff!