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hewlett
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just curious if its bad or too many side effects for ladies over 26 of age
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Sassy69
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Hi hewlett! I don't believe Nolvadex will reduce fat but it is supposed to help prevent deposit of estrogen-related fat (thigh, butt, hips). I talked to my OB GYN about it last year prior to a competition - he said there is very little research about what it does to premenopausal women. I was on birth control at the time so I wondered what would happen with that interaction - basically the birth control no longer controls birth while taken with Nolva and the nolva will actually make you more fertile -- so be very careful if using it while making whoopie. Definitely use an alternative method of bc (e.g. condoms). My doc said why not just go off the bc? So I did. I didn't really notice any difference though. I knew of one woman who was competing and even the nolva didn't help her deal w/ the estrogen-related fat.
I'm not a doc - just relating the info I found while asking the same question. Its a bitch trying to get that last bit of fat off - but be careful about how hard you try.
I'd be interested to hear more about this too. My doc just told me what he know about it - he had never heard of people using nolva for bodybuilding though. Most of the research available is from post-menopausal women as a breast cancer treatment.
I'm not a doc - just relating the info I found while asking the same question. Its a bitch trying to get that last bit of fat off - but be careful about how hard you try.
I'd be interested to hear more about this too. My doc just told me what he know about it - he had never heard of people using nolva for bodybuilding though. Most of the research available is from post-menopausal women as a breast cancer treatment.
The only experience I'm familiar with concerning Nolva, neither an anabolic nor an androgenic, but rather an anti estrogen, is treament of breast cancer & men at the end of a cycle of strong AS to counter effects of increased estrogens, acting as an estrogen agonist.
It is 'reported' that those who already have a very lean appearance will achieve a visibly muscle hardness w/ N. However, after the discontinuance of Nolvadex, a rebound effect can occur- the suddenly free estrogen receptors are now able to absorb the estrogen in the blood.
sounds kinda risky to me- and since I never got feedback from women on it, never wanted to be the guinea pig on this one.
N & the pill are a no-no.
It is 'reported' that those who already have a very lean appearance will achieve a visibly muscle hardness w/ N. However, after the discontinuance of Nolvadex, a rebound effect can occur- the suddenly free estrogen receptors are now able to absorb the estrogen in the blood.
sounds kinda risky to me- and since I never got feedback from women on it, never wanted to be the guinea pig on this one.
N & the pill are a no-no.
WonderWoman
Banned
Nolva
Tried it. My results were unremarkable. I've been told that one must be extremely lean already to see any results. Extremely lean meaning 2 weeks pre contest- bodybuilding! I did have some minor rebound after coming off. A bit of H2O here and there, but nothing a few extra sips per day couldn't handle. It is a waste of money for females IMHO. DNP on the other hand...
WW
Tried it. My results were unremarkable. I've been told that one must be extremely lean already to see any results. Extremely lean meaning 2 weeks pre contest- bodybuilding! I did have some minor rebound after coming off. A bit of H2O here and there, but nothing a few extra sips per day couldn't handle. It is a waste of money for females IMHO. DNP on the other hand...
WW
tamoxifen and fat loss
I have a client that is on 40 mg/d since she had some precancerous lumps removed and has family history. She was OK at 20 mg/d but has GAINED weight (fat) and cannot get rid of it at 40 mg/d. Her doc told her this was typical for higher dose long-term tamoxifen use, fat gain, not loss. Since tamoxifen is both and estrogen agonist and antagonist, perhaps the agonist actions become more pronounced at higher doses.
W6
I have a client that is on 40 mg/d since she had some precancerous lumps removed and has family history. She was OK at 20 mg/d but has GAINED weight (fat) and cannot get rid of it at 40 mg/d. Her doc told her this was typical for higher dose long-term tamoxifen use, fat gain, not loss. Since tamoxifen is both and estrogen agonist and antagonist, perhaps the agonist actions become more pronounced at higher doses.
W6
