Upper Chest and Lower chest. Can they be trained?

[SSAlexSS]

hello all!

Does doing incline db presses work upper chest? And normal db presses work ONLY lower chest?


What if I do ONLY inclines, would it develop nice upper chest and lower chest? Or I need to do both to have complete chest?

Basicly. which exercise is better? inclines or normal db presses?

I am looking for one supperior exercise out of these two.


Also is a split chest a genetic trait or it can be achieved? I mean I know that bicep shape is genetic (split, massive, long. think, high peaked). What about chest? Anyone know?

reply please to this nice question.

Thanks!

 

[Cackerot69]

No you can't.

Decline press is the best, a flat is better than an incline, though.

 

[Tuna Guy]

Science says no, but hey who the fuck is science.

 

[musclefattie]

guys at my gym do a lot of inclines, personally for me they don't work my upper chest but my outter chest where it joins the shoulders. Stick to dips and flat or dips and declines. The only time i have ever targetted the upper chest only was when doing machine flies or try doing this:

smith machine flat press(don't laugh) but bring the weight down to where you collar bone is. You'll have to go light, but this might hit your upper chest more than other areas. Good question about the split chest, hope someone else can answer.

 

[Robboe]

I agree with cackerot.

 

[Cackerot69]

"Science says no, but hey who the fuck is science."

So does real life experiences, show me a before/after pic in which an individuals muscle has changed shape.

 

[SSAlexSS]

guys at my gym do a lot of inclines, personally for me they don't work my upper chest but my outter chest where it joins the shoulders. Stick to dips and flat or dips and declines. The only time i have ever targetted the upper chest only was when doing machine flies or try doing this:

smith machine flat press(don't laugh) but bring the weight down to where you collar bone is. You'll have to go light, but this might hit your upper chest more than other areas. Good question about the split chest, hope someone else can answer.

Some good ideas. Except I don't have a dip station .


Inclines work your outer chest? Flyes do that is what I have heard.

You know I have heard from 'Flex" that inclines put more stress on chest and less on shoulders. Any truth in that?

I wished that I had Franco Columbo like chest. He had a grand canyon between his lower and upper chest....



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[teslet]

I somewhat disagree with both Cackrot69 and Robboe.

EMG studies conducted, showed that "the incline position produces just slightly more electrical energy in the upper pecs that either the flat or decline positions. "

Read: http://nbaf.com/nbaf/apr8pgg.html

Hey SSAlex, see the site and the same muscles are worked in the flat DB presses as in flat BB press, only with DB presses your muscles require greater demand of use of stabilizers.

Normal DB presses will not "only" work the lower pecs, synergists (muslces that assist another) are used also! ex, in this case the obvious synergists in this movement for the lower pecs (Pec.major. Sternal head) are: the upper pecs (Pec.major, Clavicular head), anterior deltiod, triceps brachii.

If you want clearer definitions of synergists and stabilizers, much more, see:

http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html

and

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
(My favorite part of the site)

I doubt there is any one single movement in lifting weights that requires only the use of one single muscle without the demand of another synergist or stabilizer.

You can achieve whatever you want to, quit thinking about genes! "Great genes" were forged from hard work and then passed down.

 

[SSAlexSS]

I somewhat disagree with both Cackrot69 and Robboe.

EMG studies conducted, showed that "the incline position produces just slightly more electrical energy in the upper pecs that either the flat or decline positions. "

Read: http://nbaf.com/nbaf/apr8pgg.html

Hey SSAlex, see the site and the same muscles are worked in the flat DB presses as in flat BB press, only with DB presses your muscles require greater demand of use of stabilizers.

Normal DB presses will not "only" work the lower pecs, synergists (muslces that assist another) are used also! ex, in this case the obvious synergists in this movement for the lower pecs (Pec.major. Sternal head) are: the upper pecs (Pec.major, Clavicular head), anterior deltiod, triceps brachii.

If you want clearer definitions of synergists and stabilizers, much more, see:

http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html

and

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
(My favorite part of the site)

I doubt there is any one single movement in lifting weights that requires only the use of one single muscle without the demand of another synergist or stabilizer.

You can achieve whatever you want to, quit thinking about genes ! "Great genes" were forged from hard work and then passed down.

Unfortunately genes DO dictate your progress and your max muscle size/shape.


Unfortunately I want to be a pro bodybuilder but I don't have genetics for that. NO!!!!!! Maybe I should aim at lesser ideal.... ARNOLD SCHWARTZNEGGER look....

 

[goahead]

YUP , genes definately pose limits, BUT

you never you your limit until you REALLY tried!