I have just gotten my first knee injury.....

[emptywallet]

Great. Wonderful. So far I've been void of any real injuries that required surgery or some other type of treatment. Well, here's the chalk boys so you can write me up one. This is infuriating. I wish I could say it was from some sort of huge lift, that I was sweating and toiling so hard, that my body just couldnt take it anymore. I wish I could say that I was fighting with some bad guys, trying to save the day, or rescueing (sp) the pretty lady in peril. I wish I could say that. But I can't. I can say I'm an idiot. Want to know how it happened? I'm a moron. Thats how. I don't do retarded things just to play around. I don't goof around and squirt water or horse around really at all. So, today, the one time I was just being goofy with the guys, BAM, game over. We were all just playing around seeing who could get down the stairs the fastest, when I decided I'd just skip the last six and hop down to the bottom. I make a little skip.......CRACK........OH MY GOODNESS, WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO MY LEG!?!?!?! I landed at the bottom kinda funny and my knee made the nice noise that it makes when you break celery together. Whats funny though is it didnt really hurt. It just felt.......strange.....I get up, and walk to the lockeroom and just sit there, not knowing what to do. I think I was still wondering what happened. The only thing I remember thinking was please don't let it by my ACL. However, I've seen a ton of guys who tore their's and they were screaming and rolling around, and it didnt really hurt that bad, just felt......strange....weak, like if you hit it really hard it would just snap.

So, I leave. Walk down another couple of flights of stairs ok, walk all the way out to my car ok, and I drive myself to the nearest ER. I get in, it takes me about an hour to be seen. By this time, its started to swell. It still doesnt really hurt though. So I go back, they take X-rays, no bone damage. Whew.....now they tell me I need to see a specialist, so I actually get to see one today, this afternoon. He plays around with my knee, actually jacks with it pretty good. He says my ACL is ok, no other really torn ligaments (sp). Whew, thank goodness. HOWEVER, it is possible, that I messed up some cartalidge, or tore my muniscus? He gives me a ton of anti-inflammatory's and says to come back in a week. The guy was an ex-seal or something and we actually talked about AAS for a little bit. It was interesting. So, I guess I'm going to be taking some time off. I dont know how long. I know I won't be squatting for a LONG LONG time, but otherwise I'm ok. However at this point I can't walk. My leg feels really really weak and really tender. He said I could have just traumatized the crap out of it. However it would be wise to come back. He said there really wasnt any point in doing an MRI, since he really couldnt do anything if something showed up anyway at this point, until the swelling went down.

I can move it around ok when I'm sitting down, however when I try and walk I look like someone shot me with a shotgun in the leg. Its pretty hard. I have crutches, and I hate them already. :sigh: This is really a slap in the face as I just finally hit my 200 lb goal at a high of 5 foot 7. Still sporting the 31 inch waist though. I've weighed considerably more than this, but the bf was a little high for my taste. I hope this gets better quick. I HATE taking any type of pain medication as the effects on anabolism are known, but I guess I'll have to take these if I want to get better, he gave me something called mobil, or something like that. :sigh: Keep me in your prayers fellahs.

 

[Lee]

god im sorry to hear that man. no good to see a brother lifter go down like that. get well soon man.

 

[coolcolj]

I feel for ya.

That's why I'm alays real careful, hell I hardly play ball anymore, don't wanna sprain my ankle!

 

[jerkbox]

sorry to hear that man....could have been worse though. I tore my ACL doing some pretty stupid shit playing basketball, and I'm still recovering a year post-op....so, I know how you feel fucking up because you were doing something stupid.

you'll be up and running again in no time, just focus on upper body for the time being.

 

[Zyglamail]

So I go back, they take X-rays, no bone damage. Whew.....now they tell me I need to see a specialist, so I actually get to see one today, this afternoon. He plays around with my knee, actually jacks with it pretty good. He says my ACL is ok, no other really torn ligaments (sp). Whew, thank goodness. HOWEVER, it is possible, that I messed up some cartalidge, or tore my muniscus? He gives me a ton of anti-inflammatory's and says to come back in a week. The guy was an ex-seal or something and we actually talked about AAS for a little bit.

Well, I am going to get on my soap box here (again) for a minute and ask why on earth do you want to reduce inflamation?

 

[jerkbox]

inflammation = swelling....i would bet he is having trouble bending his knee right now. I would ice that sucker as much as possible.

Emptywallet, if you did partially tear the meniscus, it's not that bad, they would probably do an arthroscopic repair, and the recovery time isn't too long...a few weeks. just make sure you get it taken care of as soon as possible, or it could lead to arthritic joints...another mistake I made. I had a large tear in my meniscus, and my bones were rubbing together at the knee joint, causing some bad inflammation. I think they cut out almost a quarter of my meniscus...

 

[emptywallet]

Re: Re: I have just gotten my first knee injury.....

Well, I am going to get on my soap box here (again) for a minute and ask why on earth do you want to reduce inflamation?

He indeed said it was for the swelling. Yes I am having tons of trouble bending my knee. I've always loved reading your posts Zyg! I'm sure you have a neat explanation as to why I would NOT want to reduce inflamation?

 

[Zyglamail]

inflammation = swelling....i would bet he is having trouble bending his knee right now. I would ice that sucker as much as possible.

Emptywallet, if you did partially tear the meniscus, it's not that bad, they would probably do an arthroscopic repair, and the recovery time isn't too long...a few weeks. just make sure you get it taken care of as soon as possible, or it could lead to arthritic joints...another mistake I made. I had a large tear in my meniscus, and my bones were rubbing together at the knee joint, causing some bad inflammation. I think they cut out almost a quarter of my meniscus...

and if you you back to your high school biology class notes you will see that swelling is essential for healing, it causes a myriad of effects which SPEED healing. The reason so many people have arthritic porblems after inuries is because they look for a cure in a pill and jump on anti-inflamatories etc, greatly reducing healing and leaving the joint sloppy which results in calcium buildup and damaging of the cartiledge. arthroscopic repair is another joke since all they do is go in and cut out tissue but leave the strained/sprained tendons alone since surgery cant actually repair them (unless seperated of course) the surgery is worthless when it comes to fixing the actual propblem. Once again, just another example of modern medicine treating the SYMPTOM and NOT the actual injury. Everyone is so eager to forgoe proper healing to simply reduce a little pain, its a fucking shame.

 

[Zyglamail]

Re: Re: Re: I have just gotten my first knee injury.....

He indeed said it was for the swelling. Yes I am having tons of trouble bending my knee. I've always loved reading your posts Zyg! I'm sure you have a neat explanation as to why I would NOT want to reduce inflamation?

FOr tha average couch potatoe I would say go ahead and jump on anti-inflamatories, you likely wont be doing anything to injure the joint futher and if they do they likely lead such a sedentary life style that it will matter very little. However, I assume that since you are here, your an athlete, even if only for yourself you still strive to improve. Anti-inflamatories WILL hinder healing and thus leave you in a weakened state, all because you want a little more comfort. If you suffered a sprain/strain of a tendon/ligament your knee will be sloppy, the reason its stiff is because the swelling of the tendons/ligament but this swelling causes a cascade of healing events and increases the turnover rate of these tissues which is normally 300-500 days. When you eliminate this swelling you are of course more comfortable BUT that doesnt mean you are better and healed, healing takes time and the anti-inflamatories reduce the healing effects. When the joint is unhealed its sloppy and that can cause erosion of cartiledge, this in turn can develop into arthritis. Arthroscopic surgery is then often done and what do they do? They go in and shave out some cartiledge to make you feel better, but thats not thge problem, the problem is the joint is sloppy and its causing the cartiledge to be destroyed. Once again modern medicine bypasses the problem and tries to treat the symptom.

If your serious about 100% healing dont take my word for it, head over to prolonews.com and do some reading on your own. Keep an open mind and I can just about gurantee you will get better results in the long run by NOT blindly following what your specialist recommends.

 

[emptywallet]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I have just gotten my first knee injury.....

FOr tha average couch potatoe I would say go ahead and jump on anti-inflamatories, you likely wont be doing anything to injure the joint futher and if they do they likely lead such a sedentary life style that it will matter very little. However, I assume that since you are here, your an athlete, even if only for yourself you still strive to improve. Anti-inflamatories WILL hinder healing and thus leave you in a weakened state, all because you want a little more comfort. If you suffered a sprain/strain of a tendon/ligament your knee will be sloppy, the reason its stiff is because the swelling of the tendons/ligament but this swelling causes a cascade of healing events and increases the turnover rate of these tissues which is normally 300-500 days. When you eliminate this swelling you are of course more comfortable BUT that doesnt mean you are better and healed, healing takes time and the anti-inflamatories reduce the healing effects. When the joint is unhealed its sloppy and that can cause erosion of cartiledge, this in turn can develop into arthritis. Arthroscopic surgery is then often done and what do they do? They go in and shave out some cartiledge to make you feel better, but thats not thge problem, the problem is the joint is sloppy and its causing the cartiledge to be destroyed. Once again modern medicine bypasses the problem and tries to treat the symptom.

If your serious about 100% healing dont take my word for it, head over to prolonews.com and do some reading on your own. Keep an open mind and I can just about gurantee you will get better results in the long run by NOT blindly following what your specialist recommends.

I am serious!!! If you were in my position, what would you do? Ice? Try and move it around? Stretch? What would you do?