Vanchatron
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For a good balance between size/strength but moreso pushing towards size, what would you say would be the better routine? I realise there's a lot of factors to think of such as how the individual responds to a certain type of training etc, but if you HAD to pick one of the 2 which would you pick, and if possible explain why.
I'm interested to hear people's opinions on this:
HST - http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html
Bill Starr's Madcow 5x5 - http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Periodized_5x5.htm
The thing about HST though is that there's so much waiting going on before you do any decent work. E.g. you start off working out your maxes (15,10,5 rep maxes) then you take around 2 weeks off for Strategic Deconditioning. You then still don't start wokring with heavy weights for weeks as you'll be doing 15 reps for 2 weeks, 10 reps for another 2 weeks, then finally you'll be doing 5 reps for 2-4 weeks. It just seems like a load of unnecessary waiting to me and seems to be far more complicated than is necessary. Another thing about HST is that it doesn't include deadlifts whatsoever and I find that extremely odd considering that deadlifts are one of the best exercises you can do for all round mass.
Madcow 5x5 seems to me like a real solid straight to the point no Bullsh*t training method. It has it's complicated methods but nothing like HST at all, and you start lifting heavy from the beginning which can only be a good thing.
It seems like I've answered my own question here as to which routine is better, but that's just MY opinon & I'd like to hear what other people think. If many of you feel HST is better & provide a reason as to WHY it is better, I may see myself beign more inclined to try out HST than Madcow 5x5.
I'm interested to hear people's opinions on this:
HST - http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html
Bill Starr's Madcow 5x5 - http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Periodized_5x5.htm
The thing about HST though is that there's so much waiting going on before you do any decent work. E.g. you start off working out your maxes (15,10,5 rep maxes) then you take around 2 weeks off for Strategic Deconditioning. You then still don't start wokring with heavy weights for weeks as you'll be doing 15 reps for 2 weeks, 10 reps for another 2 weeks, then finally you'll be doing 5 reps for 2-4 weeks. It just seems like a load of unnecessary waiting to me and seems to be far more complicated than is necessary. Another thing about HST is that it doesn't include deadlifts whatsoever and I find that extremely odd considering that deadlifts are one of the best exercises you can do for all round mass.
Madcow 5x5 seems to me like a real solid straight to the point no Bullsh*t training method. It has it's complicated methods but nothing like HST at all, and you start lifting heavy from the beginning which can only be a good thing.
It seems like I've answered my own question here as to which routine is better, but that's just MY opinon & I'd like to hear what other people think. If many of you feel HST is better & provide a reason as to WHY it is better, I may see myself beign more inclined to try out HST than Madcow 5x5.
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