Calculation for Hammer machines vs. free?

[##spiderbaby##]

Anyone know the calculations for converting Hammer strength lever type machines to actual free weight poundages?

I know it would be an aproximation because of other muscles involved with free weights. I know a 225 bench on hammer type equipment is not equivelent to 225 barbell bench.

Anyone know?


##spiderbaby##

 

[FISHTALES]

bump...curious myself.

 

[SynergyJim]

Well when i do Hammer MAchine I always calculate 15lbs on to the actual I put on it. I believe 15 lbs is what the machine is when there are no plates on it. For example Inc Press, flat press

 

[##spiderbaby##]

So you subtract 15 pounds from your free weight number? What do you mean by it weighs 15 pounds?

Hammer strength equipment poundages are usually higher than free weights.

I can dead more with the hammer strength than with the actual bar, same with bench, same with everything. I dont use them that much but I like the hammer strength dead lift piece.


##spiderbaby##

 

[malhavoc]

I think he means that without any plates on the machine the resistance is equivalent to 15 pounds.

 

[FBI]

so the hammer is 30 pounds less than free weights

 

[##spiderbaby##]

Yea thats what I thought but most people can do signifagantly more weight with a machine vs free weights. That why a 225 bench on a hammer is not a 225 bench with a barbell. If you had a 225 bench with machines you couldnt add 15 ponds, if you did you would have a 240 pound barbell bench, it doesnt work that way.

I did find this in the search but was hoping to get something of a calculation for my own interest. Seems as though there isnt one for all the reading Ive done.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=79104&highlight=hammer+strength

There are some good articles hyperlinked at the end of the thread.


##spiderbaby##

 

[big e 75]

Just do the freeweights!

IMO Machines do do anything!

 

[big e 75]

*dont do anything..sorry

 

[SynergyJim]

Big E machines dont BUT HAMMER DOES!