Welcome and congratulations to ef's newest mods. Ef adds depth to its mod group.

[needtogetaas]

I challenge you to a cawk pushup contest!

What are the rules? We could do it like the army pt test. Most cawk ups in under 2 mins wins.

 

[str8cubano]

ok. I have to say something. I have no clue what happened EXACTLY. I have been a member since 2001. I come and go, sometimes contribute to the best of my ability, sometimes not. I am not a board junkie, although at one point I was. However, I do know Wronggun! and RADAR from a long time, and back them up 100% in terms of knowledge, opinion, and integrity. If I am wrong, and I can be, I would have to be proven differently. Maybe RADAR went off on someone, maybe he didn't. I have no clue. Everyone has a bad day I guess. At one point, I disagreed with Alcatraz. I said what I said, he said what he said. I don't know him, but I'm sure he means well. So do I. We disagreed, and that was it. IF he sounded a bit agressive, I got a bit aggressive. But that's how it has always been. There have been very few people I ever argued on this board with and for. But it's all good, like Needtogetas said, as long as you are respectful. However, I have witnessed a FUCKLOAD of disrespectful comments in the past, so I don't know where the mods draw the line. There has always been ass kissing, (in a good bro way) because we are all in this (steroid scenrio/business) together, and it's good to be a part of something that not everyone else is a part of, especially since 95% of the public is ignorant on the subject. That being said, I would like to know what the specific guildlines are described disrespectful and a means for getting banned or post deleted. Again, I admint I don't know what fully happened, but I have been hear since 2001, and if anyone can remember UFO ( a member that had almost 1000 posts on some funny shit about sticking an a needle (inside his asshole)will remember what thread I'm talking about...Nobody deleted any posts back then...

 

[str8cubano]

P.S. Forgot to add, contgrats on new mods/mentors status

 

[needtogetaas]

ok. I have to say something. I have no clue what happened EXACTLY. I have been a member since 2001. I come and go, sometimes contribute to the best of my ability, sometimes not. I am not a board junkie, although at one point I was. However, I do know Wronggun! and RADAR from a long time, and back them up 100% in terms of knowledge, opinion, and integrity. If I am wrong, and I can be, I would have to be proven differently. Maybe RADAR went off on someone, maybe he didn't. I have no clue. Everyone has a bad day I guess. At one point, I disagreed with Alcatraz. I said what I said, he said what he said. I don't know him, but I'm sure he means well. So do I. We disagreed, and that was it. IF he sounded a bit agressive, I got a bit aggressive. But that's how it has always been. There have been very few people I ever argued on this board with and for. But it's all good, like Needtogetas said, as long as you are respectful. However, I have witnessed a FUCKLOAD of disrespectful comments in the past, so I don't know where the mods draw the line. There has always been ass kissing, (in a good bro way) because we are all in this (steroid scenrio/business) together, and it's good to be a part of something that not everyone else is a part of, especially since 95% of the public is ignorant on the subject. That being said, I would like to know what the specific guildlines are described disrespectful and a means for getting banned or post deleted. Again, I admint I don't know what fully happened, but I have been hear since 2001, and if anyone can remember UFO ( a member that had almost 1000 posts on some funny shit about sticking an a needle (inside his asshole)will remember what thread I'm talking about...Nobody deleted any posts back then...

Yes I have seen that thread. It was a pretty funny thread. We get a few threads like that some times now. I would deff let a funny thread like that keep going.


Disagreeing with some one is one thing. Attacking a mod,calling him names and just really going after them in a personal way is a no go. Not just a mod ether though. I would do the same for you or any member. No one wants to come to a board to learn or share and get attacked.

If some one has that big of a problem with a member or a mod then they should file a complaint with admin or another mod. If you have that big of a problem then it needs to be taken care of not spewed all over the board in a big flam war.

Now in this case radar was not that bad, but it could get to that. I have experence in the problem and as a mod. So it was taken to pvt. radar is ok with that. He is a stand up guy and him and I have been friends for years.

Radar has been on my side from day one. So he knows I will do the same for him. So when his post gets deleted he knows he is going to get a pm from me, and we are going to talk about it. He knows I am going to explain myself to him. Get his side of things and share my side.

We worked it out and made something that could have been a mess or a problem and turned it into a good thing.

So really anyone trying to look down on that is wrong. The out come was way better for every one.


Does some one have to be banned. In this case no. In other cases maybe. Its not easy being a mod and making these choices. You have to do what you know to be best for the site. Even if you do not like it. You have to come here every day and deal with every ones problems. move threads,keep things clean,stop fights,ban spammers or members making to much trouble.

I have made some hard choices believe it or not. I have banned people that I believed in my heart to be really good friends. I have watched people go from acting like a best friend to talking so much shit about me you would think I killed there mother.


No one wants to be told to do anything. I guess every one just thinks they should be able to do what they want,say what they want,act how ever they want. That we should ignore what that does to the site, or how that effects other older members and also new members coming in. That we should just not care how it effects the flow of the site.


Some group of people want things this way, another group of people want it another way. This guy don't like that rule but some others love it. 10 people hate the sponsors but others realize you have to have them. Well another 400 people love there products.


You have to deal with 500000 different people with different views and different ways of thinking. You have to deal with them on there good days and deal with them on there bad days.

Some people love what you do. Some people respect what you do, and still others hate you for what you have to do. Its no simple task.

So I am going to do my job. I am going to help every member I can. Keep the site aas forum as drama free as I can. Keep as many threads in the right forum as I can. Defuse as many fights as I can. I'll do my job the best I can and I will except the fact that not every ones going to like it.

And I will ignore the people that hate me for it. So will all the other mods. And if they become to much of a problem, get in the way of all I have to do. They will get shown the door.

When will a member get banned. When they become more trouble then they are worth. When will a post get deleted. When that thread is more trouble then it is worth to the rest of the site.

That is not up to the interpretation of 1-2 or even 3 people. It is up to the site as a whole (the ef family) the mods and admin.

 

[needtogetaas]

opening this back up for the good bro's. Thank you to each and every member here on ef. You guys make the magic happen. I only hope I can give as much to you as you all give to ef.

The ef team thanks you in every way.