Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below That looks like a good start. You'll just have to try it for a few weeks and judge fat loss. For me that would be WAY too many calories to cut with, but your metabolism may be diff (no doubt). Be careful trying to extrapolate caloric needs from a jacked National level competitor to a novice, natural competitor........
Time to start cutting! MS? Anyone with eg. carb cycles?
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Thanks MS. Actually, after I posted this, and was browsing through diet posts, I started thinking it seemed like an awful lot of calories. But none of the posts talk about how many calories one should go with. They only talk about grams per macronutrient. I think, from various mystical calculations I've found in books and posts, that maintenance levels are at about 2200 - 2500 for me. It just depends on the calculation - some say up to 3000. But then again, I haven't put on an ounce on the gaining carb cycle I'm on now. But I seem to look leaner, so maybe I swapped fat for muscle.
Worse than not gaining though, is I've LOST 2 kg in ONE week!! Since I can't train because of my back, I've been sticking to the lower two carb days of my current diet - maybe that's a bad move, but I didn't want to put on fat. PLEASE tell me I didn't just lose 2 kg of muscle. I can't train for at least another week or so - I can hardly move. Is there any point in starting to cut if I'm not training?
Frankly, I'm not too happy about the idea of going so low on the carbs for 2 or 3 days. I just didn't know what else to do. Is there an easier way I can do this? I don't suppose you have any other recommendations? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?
Worse than not gaining though, is I've LOST 2 kg in ONE week!! Since I can't train because of my back, I've been sticking to the lower two carb days of my current diet - maybe that's a bad move, but I didn't want to put on fat. PLEASE tell me I didn't just lose 2 kg of muscle. I can't train for at least another week or so - I can hardly move. Is there any point in starting to cut if I'm not training?
Frankly, I'm not too happy about the idea of going so low on the carbs for 2 or 3 days. I just didn't know what else to do. Is there an easier way I can do this? I don't suppose you have any other recommendations? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?
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MS - a few MORE questions:
What's the best way to determine caloric requirements for cutting? Bodyweight x 12? Calculating BMR + activity level? Some other way?
What cutting diet is likely to be most effective for natural vegetarian novice? P:C:F ratios of 40:40:20 or 50:30:20, or 33.3:33.3:33.3? Or something like the one I posted above?
Is it essential/more effective to rotate carbs? How would that work? 40:40:20 on high carb days, then 60:20:20 on low carb days? for example. Or lower for carbs?
If carb rotating, do I adjust the P ratio up to keep calories the same every day, or bounce calorie numbers above and below maintenance-level caloric requirements?
I found all this info through searches, but don't have enough experience to sort it into anything resembling an efficient plan of attack.
Could you help me make sense of it?
What's the best way to determine caloric requirements for cutting? Bodyweight x 12? Calculating BMR + activity level? Some other way?
What cutting diet is likely to be most effective for natural vegetarian novice? P:C:F ratios of 40:40:20 or 50:30:20, or 33.3:33.3:33.3? Or something like the one I posted above?
Is it essential/more effective to rotate carbs? How would that work? 40:40:20 on high carb days, then 60:20:20 on low carb days? for example. Or lower for carbs?
If carb rotating, do I adjust the P ratio up to keep calories the same every day, or bounce calorie numbers above and below maintenance-level caloric requirements?
I found all this info through searches, but don't have enough experience to sort it into anything resembling an efficient plan of attack.
Could you help me make sense of it?
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