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Hey Tatayana, thanks ... Here is up updated list. Can you tag this to the bottom of my top post? (so people can get the up to date knowledge just by seeing the top and not scrolling and clicking)
***** UPDATE *****
With the help of the moderators, I'm going to post an updated list here based on the way this thread evolves over time. Keep it comin'!
Core Essentials:
Glutamine
Whey Protein
Diet High in Protein, Low in Processed Foods, Low in Non-essential Fats
EFAs (via flax oil or a balanced 3 - 6- 9 blend)
Muscle Gain Tools:
Creatine
Fat Loss Tools:
The eca (ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin) Stack
Joint Support:
Glucosamine
MSM
Chondroitin
(combination of the above three most effective)
Miscellaneous - Optional But Undisputed Effectiveness:
BCAAs (gains, recovery, fat loss, more ...)
***** UPDATE *****
With the help of the moderators, I'm going to post an updated list here based on the way this thread evolves over time. Keep it comin'!
Core Essentials:
Glutamine
Whey Protein
Diet High in Protein, Low in Processed Foods, Low in Non-essential Fats
EFAs (via flax oil or a balanced 3 - 6- 9 blend)
Muscle Gain Tools:
Creatine
Fat Loss Tools:
The eca (ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin) Stack
Joint Support:
Glucosamine
MSM
Chondroitin
(combination of the above three most effective)
Miscellaneous - Optional But Undisputed Effectiveness:
BCAAs (gains, recovery, fat loss, more ...)
And now what about appetite suppression?
We know ECA does the job. But you have to cycle off and on ...
What about?
Hoodia
Pinolenic Acid
Whey Protein (for the galactomacropeptides that stimulate CCK)
Do they work? (I can only attest to whey protein in the above not having tried the other two)
What else???
NFT
We know ECA does the job. But you have to cycle off and on ...
What about?
Hoodia
Pinolenic Acid
Whey Protein (for the galactomacropeptides that stimulate CCK)
Do they work? (I can only attest to whey protein in the above not having tried the other two)
What else???
NFT
J
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Pro steroids
andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione
5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol
13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one
12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene / 6-17 dihydroxyetiocholove-3-ol proponate
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3,17-diol
2a, 17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane isomers and 17a-methyl-5a-androst-3-ene-17b-ol
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
17b-methoxytrienosterone
andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione
5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol
13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one
12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene / 6-17 dihydroxyetiocholove-3-ol proponate
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3,17-diol
2a, 17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane isomers and 17a-methyl-5a-androst-3-ene-17b-ol
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
17b-methoxytrienosterone
Hey JAM, thanks for those ... Are they all proven anabolic agents?
I'm not clear on which of the new pro-hormones actually work ...
Anyone have anything more on appetite suppression?
NFT
I'm not clear on which of the new pro-hormones actually work ...
Anyone have anything more on appetite suppression?
NFT
J
Just Add Muscle
Guest
Yeah those are all very good hormones.Just google them and you will get plenty of feedback.For appetite suppression my favorite product is ALR Venom.nikolafuckingtesla said:
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Omega 3's: Cold water fish oils, flax seed oil, Evening primrose oil-all good for joint health, cardio, mental health etc.
Raw dessicated liver, eatem like candy take with 1000mg ascorbic acid, Iron Fe, and B-complex to boost RBC's.
Rocky mountain oysters, liver, heart and organ meats. Deer, antelope, Elk and any wild meats. And of course the fresh raw liver and heart from a hunt still steaming (Of course don't try this at home kids)
Adaptogens: Panax Ginseng, Korean, Chinese and of course good old sang.
Cordyceps(fungus), Reishi, Shitake, Maitake-gotta get your 'shrooms in.
Endurance: Siberian eleuthero-probably the best all around herbal out there with lot's of good ol'commie Russian research.
Fresh Mormon Tea: native to western US species of ephedra- keep it local keep it natural(of course kids don't try this at home)
Best fat burner: Albuterol(oral) Please see: J Appl Physiol 89: 430-436, 2000;
8750-7587/00 Note:FFA concentrations were significantly higher after albuterol oral administration and Resting and exercise blood urea levels were significantly decreased _ meaning Fat was burned for fuel during cardio and protein was not broken down meaning anabolic state vs contol. 12mg day for three weeks- again(kids please don't try this at home) Here's a statistic: 5% of the US population is diagnosed with asthma and takes medications but on the US olympic team sports swimming, track and field and endurance sports the number is 38%-There's a lot of athletes with asthma-wonder why?
***** UPDATE *****
With the help of the moderators, I'm going to post an updated list here based on the way this thread evolves over time. Keep it comin'!
Core Essentials:
Glutamine
Whey Protein
Diet High in Protein, Low in Processed Foods, Low in Non-essential Fats
EFAs (via flax oil or a balanced 3 - 6- 9 blend)
Muscle Gain Tools:
Creatine
Fat Loss Tools:
The eca (ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin) Stack
Joint Support:
Glucosamine
MSM
Chondroitin
(combination of the above three most effective)
Miscellaneous - Optional But Undisputed Effectiveness:
BCAAs (gains, recovery, fat loss, more ...)[/QUOTE]
Raw dessicated liver, eatem like candy take with 1000mg ascorbic acid, Iron Fe, and B-complex to boost RBC's.
Rocky mountain oysters, liver, heart and organ meats. Deer, antelope, Elk and any wild meats. And of course the fresh raw liver and heart from a hunt still steaming (Of course don't try this at home kids)
Adaptogens: Panax Ginseng, Korean, Chinese and of course good old sang.
Cordyceps(fungus), Reishi, Shitake, Maitake-gotta get your 'shrooms in.
Endurance: Siberian eleuthero-probably the best all around herbal out there with lot's of good ol'commie Russian research.
Fresh Mormon Tea: native to western US species of ephedra- keep it local keep it natural(of course kids don't try this at home)
Best fat burner: Albuterol(oral) Please see: J Appl Physiol 89: 430-436, 2000;
8750-7587/00 Note:FFA concentrations were significantly higher after albuterol oral administration and Resting and exercise blood urea levels were significantly decreased _ meaning Fat was burned for fuel during cardio and protein was not broken down meaning anabolic state vs contol. 12mg day for three weeks- again(kids please don't try this at home) Here's a statistic: 5% of the US population is diagnosed with asthma and takes medications but on the US olympic team sports swimming, track and field and endurance sports the number is 38%-There's a lot of athletes with asthma-wonder why?
***** UPDATE *****
With the help of the moderators, I'm going to post an updated list here based on the way this thread evolves over time. Keep it comin'!
Core Essentials:
Glutamine
Whey Protein
Diet High in Protein, Low in Processed Foods, Low in Non-essential Fats
EFAs (via flax oil or a balanced 3 - 6- 9 blend)
Muscle Gain Tools:
Creatine
Fat Loss Tools:
The eca (ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin) Stack
Joint Support:
Glucosamine
MSM
Chondroitin
(combination of the above three most effective)
Miscellaneous - Optional But Undisputed Effectiveness:
BCAAs (gains, recovery, fat loss, more ...)[/QUOTE]
