The End of Bullshit Movement

[nikolafuckingtesla]

I'm declaring war on bullshit.

My proposal:

1. We post a sticky thread that perpetually lists the current "state of the art" supplements. No brand names - just substance names.

For example, many fads come and go, but some supplements are considered foundational by almost every body builder (for example: protein, creatine, glutamine ...)

This list would only include substances that are relatively undisputed in their effectiveness.

2. If someone proposes an addition (or replacement) for the list, it must live up to the scrutiny of the entire community, be backed up by actual science, have a volume of reported annecdotal evidence from members of this community.

This way, a new guy can come in and get an answer to his burning question: where the f*** do I begin?

NFT

Updated List

Core Essentials:

Glutamine
Whey Protein
Diet High in Protein, Low in Processed Foods, Low in Non-essential Fats
EFAs (via flax oil or a balanced 3 - 6- 9 blend)

Muscle Gain Tools:

Creatine

Fat Loss Tools:

The eca (ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin) Stack

Joint Support:

Glucosamine
MSM
Chondroitin
(combination of the above three most effective)

Miscellaneous - Optional But Undisputed Effectiveness:

BCAAs (gains, recovery, fat loss, more ...)

 

[nikolafuckingtesla]

Come on - no one's game?

At least flame me for self-bumping.

Let's do this thing.

NFT

 

[MichaelScott]

y not do it in the thread u started?

 

[nikolafuckingtesla]

OK, here's a first stab:

Core Essentials:

Glutamine
Whey Protein
Diet High in Protein, Low in Processed Foods, Low in Non-essential Fats
EFAs (via flax oil or a balanced 3 - 6- 9 blend)

Muscle Gain Tools:

Creatine

Fat Loss Tools:

The ECA Stack


All of the above being relatively undisputed by most everyone in the bodybuilding community as effective.

Are there more?

NFT

 

[Tatyana]

Multi vitamin and mineral

Glucosamine/chondroitin + MSM

BCAAs and the various other amino acids in isolation (especially arginine and lysine)

 

[bobby716]

fat loss lipoflame

 

[Tatyana]

Caffeine

 

[nikolafuckingtesla]

Bobby - sorry I said "no brand names" - we're trying to make this an objective piece of knowledge without marketing messages.

Tatayana - right on! Especially MCM/Chondroitin/Glucosamine for joints. I think that's been in use for about 8 years now rather consistently and deserves a spot on the list without question. BCAA's ... any objections?

Now - can I edit my initial post so I can keep the updated list as a running tally of the results as people reply?

NFT

 

[Tatyana]

Bobby - sorry I said "no brand names" - we're trying to make this an objective piece of knowledge without marketing messages.

Tatayana - right on! Especially MCM/Chondroitin/Glucosamine for joints. I think that's been in use for about 8 years now rather consistently and deserves a spot on the list without question. BCAA's ... any objections?

Now - can I edit my initial post so I can keep the updated list as a running tally of the results as people reply?

NFT

You can quote yourself and type in the new supps you want.

If not, I can edit your post for you, you choose, it's your thread.

 

[artificialaspirations]

Took years to figure it out but:

creatine
protein
EFAs
Glucosamine, etc
ECA

gives the biggest bang for the buck.