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Seems Very easy To Spot Guy's Who Are On...

i would attribute the red skin to the increased amount of blood. increased RBC count, and when 'on' you carrying about an extra liter of blood. people always know when i'm on because my shoulders and traps explode. i'm a skinny little guy, but when my shoulders are wider than the big dude next to me, something is obviously up. :)
and i'm always vascular on or off, but definitely bigger veins when on...
 
Do you ever see these guys outside of the gym? I'm only red when in the gym. All of my skin turns bright red like a sunburn. It's only like that, for me, due to the crazy ass pumps I get, making the blood rush HARD, almost hurts! I love it!

Chris

GhettoStudMuffin said:
After reading so much about AAS on this board and working out at the gym it's gotten to the point that I'm pretty sure I know exactly which guy's in the gym juice.

It's one tell-tale give away it seems.

Very flushed red skin. Every white guy on juice at my local gym has red flushed looking skin. It looks like they just got kinda minor sunburn, but it's like that 24/7.

Anyone know what causes this. Is it the high blood pressure?

How do you cover it up so it's not so frickin obvious? Tan?
 
So the best bet is to start tanning and use anti-e's like arimidex then, I take it.

Probably start on a low-dose cycle of test at 250mg a week, skip the d-bol and deca, at least first cycle.

I train sometimes with some "natural powerlifters" at my gym and get advice on technique and may compete with them in the future, and they are all good guy's and I just don't want to be looked down on because I want to go on the juice. It's not a matter of needing it. I make plenty of strength and size gains so long as I eat alot, sleep alot and train hard, it comes no problem. It's more wanting to to see what it's like and to get my test levels up high because I miss that feeling when I was 16 of being HELLA horny, but even more than that, I miss the sick ass pumps I used to get back then from training which I don't get now, at least not to the same degree which I can only attribute to the high levels of test I had at the time from going through puberty.

Also, I see nothing morally wrong with using juice as it's my body and I want to be FAR above normal physically which I believe I am capable of without, just even more so and faster with juice. I make no moral distinction between a guy using juice and say a woman getting breast implants.

I am going to use, so in my scenario, is there anyway I can use without being TOO obvious about it besides not talking about it and casually denying it if it's brought up? I mean I know as soon as I go on I'm gonna blow up, even if it's a low dose like 250mg a week. I tried 1-ad for 3.5 weeks and gained 12lbs and retained roughly 10 of them and it wasn't fat or at least very little as I appeared leaner after, even though I was eating hella. I got killer, long lasting pumps in my forearms, delts and arms off that weak shit and put a legit 1" on my arms in that time frame that I kept after. I believe I'm a high responder or whatever and I just don't want to get excluded or looked down on for choosing to be all that I really can be haha. It seems unfair to think bad about someone that uses AAS, like that makes them a bad person or whatever.

Any advice, thoughts?
 
Bulshit...more androgen receptors in teh traps..LMFAO...BULSHIT.......first of all traps are the easiest muscles to work... i only woirk them 1 in 2 weeks or so so that my body stays proportionate.....hellif i wanted to i could ba 1 big trap...this jsut looks plain stupid...i dont knwo about soem of you guys..but bodybuilding is based on proportions.....the perfect proportional body.....people who have huge traps an dno rest of body look llike idiots...or then ther eis th etype who onlly train biceps ..lol...what is the diference.. And this crap about being red is bulshit... if you came to my gym you would see that all the big juicers arent red...its ussualy the moron who holds his breath instead of performing rthe excercise corectly who turns red....then again i do knwo 1 person who jsut happens to turn red whiel doing even a light set..but he is NOT on any juice.....
In reality...everyone who juices should be able to tell if anothe person is on its jsut easy.... you can tell by size...etc.. weigh tbeing lifted...99% of the time...eighter that someone has been on or is on......no doubts about it....however what you cant tell is the pussys with 12 " arms you would never suspect of juiceing who realy are taking a lot of shit and dont even look like they spent 1 day in the gym.Remember people the goal is to look proportionate not be oe of those tools the big bros laugh at becous eyou only train bis and chest or chest and traps.....and do we have a few in our gym..lmfao
 
Anthony Starks said:
Shiftyness?!?

In my local gyms when someone makes 6 years progress in 6 months or spends half there time hanging around for a quiet moment to source tap, they get a bit paranoid... and shifty.

I rowed at school and would never have dreamt of stazzing up back then. Coaches started asking my mates if I was on roids, because a year of dedication to weights turned me from a soft 16 year old kid to a big 17 year old. Teachers find themselves suddenly ass kickable and so get suspicious.

Other than such incidences of RAP (random acts of paranoia) the average gym member in UK doesn't suspect steroids. Thanks why they all give it the 'I wont do heavy weights because I dont want to get big.' The answer is 'don't worry, you wont'.
 
c17 said:
if you are normally vascular, does being on really make you that much more?

My veins tend to stand out a bit more when on, at least I got a lot of comments when I was using Tren while Bulking last winter. I think it depends on which AAS I'm using. I'm using Winny right now and my legs seem to much more apperently vascular as it has really kicked in. I am currently bulking. In the summer, I cut obviously and tan as well. My veins stand out more in my chest and abs in the summer.
 
dogoftheday said:
Neck and traps are a big give away.
Why don't you use tanning lotion instead of getting fried? Same result but no skin cancer.
Flush is never caused by high blood pressure. High blood pressure, by definition, has no signs or symptoms (not even headache, as zillion of people believe). It can only be detected by a BP machine.
It's the genes. Instead of my veins poping out, my skin will just get red/filled with blood. There is another guy like that in my gym. It's genetics.
If I blush, I'll look like I got a sunburn on my face.
 
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