Rate these gears in terms of keepable gains

[PatBateman2]

Hey, old-timer beginning to lurk again. It's been a while since I've seen a good discussion on keepable gains. Where do people feel the listed below fit in? Keep in mind I'm thinking of this in terms of a single substance cycle as if you were trying each one on its own compared to the others (i.e. cycle of ox alone vs. test alone). Also, their building properties vary wildly, so we are only discussing the "keepage" factor here

Primo
Ox
Dbol
Anadrol
Halo
Masteron
Tren
Eq
Deca
Test
Winny

I tend to think they fall like this

Best at keeping solid gains
Eq/Primo/Ox/Tren

Decent but not great
Deca/Winny/Test (although I think test starts to fall towards the lower categories of less keepable gains)

Might as well not bother unless a true bb comp
Drol
Dbol
Halo

Kind of an X Factor
I don't know anyone who uses Masteron besides comp. purposes so I really can't say how I feel in terms of the "keepability" of the gains seen on it

As an aside and considering just my own opinion, I think my next cycle is going to be Eq at 400-600mg alone for 20-30 weeks.

 

[anthony518]

Throw sust on your list please.

 

[LoneTree]

Sust is a blend of Tests

 

[JKurz1]

if your pct is on point, diet is kept tight, and you keep training AS intense, if not more, there is NO REASON why any of the said AAS cant be in solid gains category.......

 

[patriots357]

tren, eq winny, primo

 

[PatBateman2]

if your pct is on point, diet is kept tight, and you keep training AS intense, if not more, there is NO REASON why any of the said AAS cant be in solid gains category.......

totally disagree. Are you telling me that you honestly think Drol produces gains that are keepable over a long period of time. As an aside, I am not talking in my original post about keeping gains for months after, my post is premised on "keepable" gains for life

 

[cboogsrun]

I believe with a strict diet most gains from most compounds can be kept. You can't suck down 6,000 cal a day for 8-10 weeks. Come off cycle and take 3,000. You starve your newly largened muscle cells regardless of how intense your workouts remain.

 

[The Heretic2]

totally disagree. Are you telling me that you honestly think Drol produces gains that are keepable over a long period of time. As an aside, I am not talking in my original post about keeping gains for months after, my post is premised on "keepable" gains for life

I agree 100%. Some of the aformentioned AAS can produce keepable gains, but DBol and Drol is impossible unless you are a genetic freak.

 

[JKurz1]

I agree 100%. Some of the aformentioned AAS can produce keepable gains, but DBol and Drol is impossible unless you are a genetic freak.

So why even bother with them??? To be strong for 2 months???

 

[blut wump]

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