Posted this on anabolic board for some input on GH...

[chesty]

I got very little. Save for a couple of responses. Is it me or is there that little knowledge on this wonderful drug?

Here is the post. Maybe I will get some more insight. I have heard mixed results from it doesn't work to it will build new muscle (muscle that doesn't yet currently exist.) Thoughts, impressions, advice.

I am getting ready to start my cutting cycle in January. It is a twelve week cycle in which I hope to go from 215 at 12% or so to 225 at 4% or less.

The cycle will go something like this.

450-600 mg week eq x weeks 1-12
GH 2mg a day monday-friday weeks 1-12
Inusulin Humilin R weeks 1-12 (not sure on dose yet)
500 mg week sust x weeks 1-8
450-600 mg week winny weeks 5-12 (alternate would be weeks 1-12)
20 mg halo testin x weeks 9-12

I will be using milk thistle and cranberry as well and requisite anti titty drugs.

On the serosotim kit I recieved it states in the insert that the recommended dosage for 55kg and greater is 6mg a day (18 iu's) that would be 84 vials for twelve weeks and at the current price, that would cost me thousands of dollars. I was planning on a total of 252 iu's for twelve weeks.

So is it that the recommended dosage's are for those who are wasting from aids (that is what the research in the insert was based on) was because they were using no other drugs or that becaue of their increased muscle catabolism they needed such a high dose or both?

All of the research I have done and responses here on this board suggest that 4-6 iu's a day would be the desired dose five days a week.

1. Is this sufficient. I am over 90kg (215lbs)

If this is the case, this brings me to the second question.

2. After reconstitution, you are supposed to use the entire contents within 24 hours. That would preclude splitting it into 3 doses over 3 days.

Can you stretch the time to 72 hours safely as long as you keep the gh refrigerated after reconstitution?

3. How does the above cycle look?

I plan on (key word plan) to compete at least 4 times this year, win or lose, I don't care. I just want to compete. First one is March 23.

 

[the kidd]

1. Yes that would be sufficient. I have noticed with hGH that you will know what is your correct dose after about 2 weeks of use, start slow and monitor your progress weekly, this I imagine for you will be difficult (with all the other gear).

2. The recommendation on the insert is for those with a weakened immune system. The water that comes with the kit willl be fine for up to a week if stored correctly.

3. I think that looks like a good cycle for your goals.

Good luck.

PEACE

 

[nautica]

Your HGH intake needs to be at least 4-6 ius per day.

Insulin, I would not run it more than 4-6 weeks. And you need to be very knowlagable about insulin before you attempt it. It will build muscle but will also make you store fat if you do not understand how you diet needs to work with it.

Also be careful with the halo test that close to your competition. It will aromatise very easily which could cause for some water retention. Personally I would quit it a week out, But just watch your body and see how you react.

Finally, It sounds like you are trying to add a lot of muscle while cutting. To me you would be better off to bulk up add the muscle you want and then have a cutting cycle going into your competion.

And remeber, competitions are all about timeing and you might be better off concentrating on one or two competions than trying to compete in 4. (To me it would be better to win one than to compete in 100)

Good luck, nautica

 

[chesty]

I have done the bulking up. Been up to 255 and now at 218. (mostly from pain making it hard to lift)

My goal seems high and contrary to most popular beliefs, but I do not normally subscribe to the status quo. If I do run the insulin it would be for the first half I think.

I have used halo before and it works great for me. I eat it like candy (for 4-6 weeks)

I have not competed in two years and so right now I want to hit three or four. Chances are I will be peaking for at least one show.

 

[liftsiron]

Nautica halo will not aromatise at any dose. it's specfic structure will not allow it to convert to estrogen. Chesty I have used gh at 2 to 4 i.u.s a day to get ripped to the bone. I've always weighed between 200 and 205 when starting to cut. It is much harder to get the full cutting effects of gh when you combine it with insulin. I do not recommend that you use insulin when cutting, I will probably get out voted on this however. But I'm speaking from my own experience. As nautica said it is very hard to add muscle pounds when cutting. Good luck.

 

[nautica]

Question for Liftiron.

At high dosages does it not seem to make you retain water. It does me and that is why I was assuming it converted to estrogen.
Just curious.

 

[FitnessChick]

Use Bacterio static water( it will last for 10- 14 days in the fridge).

I mix 6mg with 1ml of water so I get 1.8 of gh per 10IU of fluid. Which is what I take daily. For you 20 IU of fluid or 3.6 of gh should be the dose ,any more is a waste (according to most of my Pro body builder and trainers I've spoken to ).

Also from a body building perspective use Humalog its much better. And a hell of alot easier to time. I do 10IU's post workout with 100grams of dextrose and and 50 grams of whey

 

[liftsiron]

Nauatica I never go real high on Halo, I use 15mg a day for 3 to 4 weeks contest prep only, without any water retention. Maybe in your case it may interfer with some other mechinism, I don't know?