PCT is so much better for me now I've stopped using Tren and Deca...

[John McLane]

Just couldn't handle the come down after Tren and Deca, Id have no libido for moths, and Id get bad spot's after I had finished my course....so, after giving up both compounds no spot's and recovery quicker/easier. Not plain sailing all the time, just much better.

 

[JoeHaley]

sounds scary...

 

[John McLane]

sounds scary...

It was, NOTHING would work for me PCT wise, its so obvious that it was those compounds that were causing the bulk of the problem, no I will lower my dosages in future and only use TWO steroids at a time, and have a MINIMUM of 3 months off between cycles...the typical gym rat does need to take 3 or 4 steroids at a time IMO. I know some who are on all year round and have openly admitted that they don't care about their own natural test level, I will NEVER get to that stage.

 

[Nelson Montana]

They are the two hardest to recover from -- partly because of the progesterone. Anti e's do nothing for it. Dostinex doesn't really do much. Lowering SHBG with proviron or UNELASHED is the best you can do, but it still makes recovery tough. I understand using Tren if you absolutely want the results it gives, but deca? Not worth it. There's better stuff.

 

[stevesmi]

i agree with nelson. deca just isn't worth it. tren isn't that bad to recover from if you keep it short in my experience.

 

[hadbadexp]

I had those two compounds, been 6 months off, had two pct and been 2 months since finshed my last pct
lipido is coming slightly back. i can perform sex and actually enjoying it really (did not enjoy sex at all back then). wait for recovery and for future cycles make a post here before u start and hear up opinions, thats what im going to do

 

[stevesmi]

I had those two compounds, been 6 months off, had two pct and been 2 months since finshed my last pct
lipido is coming slightly back. i can perform sex and actually enjoying it really (did not enjoy sex at all back then). wait for recovery and for future cycles make a post here before u start and hear up opinions, thats what im going to do

exactly.

I have been helping hadbad for a while now try and get recovered through PM's.. it has not been easy for him so take his advice and be smart. he isn't the only person I have been helping, there are many.... so if you are gonna run deca you better be aware of the risks involved. its definately common to have recovery issues!

 

[JBEXT81]

fully agreed - no mas deca..

BUT, having said that whats the replacement... NPP??????

 

[John McLane]

fully agreed - no mas deca..

BUT, having said that whats the replacement... NPP??????

Equipose?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ for mass? dbol