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My Dermacrine experience

njmuscleguy

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Hey folks... yep, it's another Derma thread, but I promised I would give my honest opinion of the product, good or bad, just as I have done with other board-sponsored products in the past. So here it is...

My recent cycle was as follows:
Wks 1-9 Test Enth (Frontloaded with 1g, then went down to 750mg/wk)
Wks 1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
Wks 6-9 NPP 200mg /wk
Wks 1-10 Proviron 50mg /wk
Wks 1-11 Aromasin 12.5mg ED
HCG (Started on same day as last test shot at 500iu ED for 10 days)
IGF at 80mcg ED for 4 weeks (during PCT)

Some background: I have about 8-9 cycles under my belt, I'm 32yrs old. I've tried every variation of PCT you can think of, including Nolva, Clomid, and HCG. None of them have ever been satisfactory. I hated Nolva, it didn't work for me and it further suppressed my libido. Clomid worked a little better, but the sides (emotional stuff, floaters, abdominal pain) were intolerable. I've included Proviron and low-dose dbol in some of my PCT's... they were a temporary fix, but crash was inevitable after PCT was finished. I've tried every OTC product you can think of, particularly those aimed at increasing libido or helping natural test recovery. Most were bunk, some were temporary fixes at best.

As stated above, I ran HCG for 10 days while waiting for the test to clear my system (active life of test is 10-14 days). Several days after my last HCG shot (active life is 3-5 days), I was instructed to start Dermacrine (original formula). I also should mentioned that I've been running Tribex Gold (tribulus) since starting PCT. Tribulus has never impressed me, even high-potency stuff from Europe, but I've had several people swear by this brand, so I decided to try. My impression of Tribex: it seems to help a little with libido, nothing stellar.

So here's my impression of Dermacrine. Today marks Day 7 of Dermacrine use, which is a little over 3 weeks after my last test shot. Tyipcally I have always crashed at this point in past PCT's. I actually felt a slight jolt of energy and focus from the very start. Libido seemed to elevate too. Workouts were still strong. Yesterday and today, I've been a little sluggish (probably from lack of sleep... IGF also makes me feel that way too)... my workout last night wasn't so hot. I don't feel "crashed", just sluggish... but libido is still high(er). I'm hoping I will get back on track with some extra sleep. I like the fact that I'm not totally crashed (at least not yet anyway) and that I have any libido. Another big plus: NO SIDE EFFECTS!

So I will run the original Derma for 1 more week (2 weeks total), then switch over to the new Sustain version (as instructed) for 4 more weeks. Then I will get bloodwork shortly after that. My bloodwork after PCT always comes out pretty pitiful so I will have something to compare to. I should also mention that I paid for both bottles, so no one is putting me up to this.

So far so good, I will update again at the end of Week 2. Be glad to answer any questions.
 
good to hear bro, keep us posted, especially on how the derma sustain goes cause i cant get the original derma sent over here. cheers
 
I also have to mention that I've been applying Derma to the lean, inside parts of my thighs and abdominal area (as opposed to my shoulders). 30 quirts per day. Something about their being more receptors in the shoulders that would convert DHEA to test, thereby possibly suppressing the body from jumpstarting its own natural test.

Oh, and I've also noticed that I've been having experiencing sweats in the past 7 days, (more so at night) and I didn't even sweat like this while "on".

Acne on my back & shoulders has flared up a bit too, which never happens while "on"... HCG makes me break out like crazy.

I take these both as signs that *something* is happening.
 
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Yes, the dermacrine will elicit a thermogenic response partly from the DHEA metabolites and party from the flavonoids increasing mitochondrial oxygen consumption.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, the dermacrine will elicit a thermogenic response partly from the DHEA metabolites and party from the flavonoids increasing mitochondrial oxygen consumption.

-Pp

So in English that explains why I'm sweating :)
 
This is good. I am subscribed and hope the sustain will be a better PCT option for you

njmuscleguy said:
I also have to mention that I've been applying Derma to the lean, inside parts of my thighs and abdominal area (as opposed to my shoulders). 30 quirts per day. Something about their being more receptors in the shoulders that would convert DHEA to test, thereby possibly suppressing the body from jumpstarting its own natural test.

Oh, and I've also noticed that I've been having experiencing sweats in the past 7 days, (more so at night) and I didn't even sweat like this while "on".

Acne on my back & shoulders has flared up a bit too, which never happens while "on"... HCG makes me break out like crazy.

I take these both as signs that *something* is happening.
 
gjohnson5 said:
This is good. I am subscribed and hope the sustain will be a better PCT option for you

I hope so too.... your experience with Derma helped me take the plunge!

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to gjohnson5 again.
 
My experience is opposite to yours to be honest. My experience with dermacrine was that I wanted a testosterone booster (as I don't juice) but I bet that If I did I would have similar issues that you have. Some OTC products give me hypogonadism as Jenetic put it. So if I did real test injections I probably would have similar issues

njmuscleguy said:
I hope so too.... your experience with Derma helped me take the plunge!

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to gjohnson5 again.
 
gjohnson5 said:
My experience is opposite to yours to be honest. My experience with dermacrine was that I wanted a testosterone booster (as I don't juice) but I bet that If I did I would have similar issues that you have. Some OTC products give me hypogonadism as Jenetic put it. So if I did real test injections I probably would have similar issues

Are your test levels lower than normal for your age range? For several years now, my levels have vascillated between just above normal to waaaay below normal... and I haven't been able to determine if it's because of continued AAS use along with botched-up PCT's, or if my natty levels are just declining. If Derma doesn't work (for longer than just a quick-fix), then I will have to look into HRT.
 
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