Mixing carbs and fats-how much is too much?

[CytoMel]

All the talk about not mixing carbs, fats in the same meal makes sense. But what does this mean in terms of grams or calories?? Would a protein bar with 13 grams of carbs and 7 grams of fat be too much of each?
How much is too much of a carb-fat mix in terms of calories? How about two cans of coke (50 gms carbs) and something containing fat like 2 peices of pizza (approx 25 grams of fat). This would be 100 cal from fatnd 100 cal from carbs. How much is too much??

 

[diamonddiceclay]

that theory is not correct-it only applies to huge quantities of carbs and fats together-

 

[gymtime]

......huge quantities of carbs and fats together-

.....also known as "The American Diet."

 

[MR. BMJ]

By all means, it is okay to have fats with your carbs, it just depends on what kinds they are. For example, and as a rule of thumb, you do not want to have high GI carbs mixed with fats, especially saturated fats at that. About the only times i can really think of that you shouldn't have fats with carbs is during a keto/CKD diet, postworkout meals, and maybe breakfast. We can "cautiously" say that some fats can slow absorption, thus they can help keep GI levels stable. High GI foods, as a rule of thumb, basically should only be consumed after a workout or on a CKD carb-up, and maybe in the morning, and like I said above, at these times, you do not want to have too much fat, especially saturated fats. Ideally, with the remaining meals, it is just plain stupid to have a high GI meal, therefore you want to consume a low-moderate GI carb at these times. The addition of healthy fats can benefit these meals with its "supposed" thought of slowing down absorption...as well as fiber and maybe some proteins.

BMJ

 

[MS]

Coke and pizza is about the worst combo I can think of......the grams of carbs and fat are also only starting points. Think about percentage of calories. 100 grams carbs from coke and pizza is 400 calories of high GI carbs. 100 grams of fat from the same meal is 900 calories of mostly saturated fat (and prolly high salt too if it's a bought pizza). So out of 1300 total calories from the meal, around 75-80% of the caloreis come from saturated fats, and the rest from high GI carbs. Taking in this much fat and carbs in one meal reduces your insulin sensitivity causing a biphasic insulin spike. The first spike is around 60-90 minutes after eating, the second spike 3-4 hours later. This is bad bad bad. Both spikes are due to insulin resistance to a high fat meal rather than the desirable post workout insulin spike sought by many bodybuilders.