You know what?? Not to bring the as$$hole back into the discussion, but I was reading this thread and I looked at his pictures (Ross). He claims he is 6' 210 lbs under 8% BF.. I don't know but those are exactly my stats and I look ALOT thicker and fuller than he does. It seems to me that he is more like 180lbs if he is 6 ft. Maybe he was standing on a chair when he was measuring his height or maybe he was holding his groceris when he jumped on the scale at Publix but I dont buy over 200 pounds.. I will post pics to compare. I mean, I wear a 18 inch neck dress shirt and a 33 pant. He looks like he would fill out a 16 17 at best...