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If you don't believe Jesus Christ was/is God...

Cindy its Bad, please dont, it is not for your eyes.....

It is for the emissaries, and for the sinners that will pay.....

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"You opened it we came"

"You tested me, we are coming.... in the flesh and in the wind..."

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What if she didn't want me to come get her? What if she didn't want me in her life? Am I supposed to force her to want to be with me because I had her? I come waiting at the door, AND I've paid her bail and she refuses to come with me, what do I do?

I don't know much about hell; I'm not sure it is eternal because of some conflicting verses I ran across a couple months ago. I just don't know that for sure right now. I'm not sure what else to say about that. Sorry. Let's just assume it's eternal for the argument right now since you posted those verses and I can see them right now. Even though I'm not confident hell is eternal; I believe personally that I deserve it anyway. Who am I to tell a holy God how he should punish me? He gave me a choice, and he paid the price for me. Why would I turn that down?

Well, I suppose if she would rather suffer an unimaginable torture for eternity, than escape it by just going with you, then I suppose she could stay. I can't imagine anyone doing that, after having experienced that "hell" though (lol!).

Maybe you could just destroy her "eternal soul"? To spare her, ya know? :)

You came across contradicting/conflicting verses in a perfect, inerrant book guided by the hand of a perfect, all knowing god who has the ability to preserve his word throughout time? How is that possible? Does God contradict himself? To use a phrase you've used, "is he a liar?"

If you're right about what you said earlier about what you believe the bible is (perfect, inerrant, etc.), then those contradictions can't be possible, can they? Otherwise it's not perfect or wasn't preserved.

Who said you were to tell god how to do anything? I merely drew examples from what we're familiar with. If a good earthly father wouldn't think of torturing his children for all eternity no matter how bad they were, why would a perfect heavenly father do that?

I think it's sad that you (claim to) believe you deserve to be tortured to a point you couldn't even fathom, and endure that for all eternity. That sounds like an issue. Do you say that because you've heard some preacher say it, or do you honestly believe you are among the most vile of all humanity, equal to child rapists, and others who commit such horrible acts?

I don't think you actually believe that though. I've heard people say that before, and I think they just parrot it. Besides, no christian believes they will go to hell because they've been "washed in the blood of Jesus," so it's easy to say it. It's just lip service. If you got up to heaven and god said, "you kept saying you deserved to go to hell, so I'm going to let you go there forever." I bet you'd argue that you had accepted Jesus and he was supposed to have paid for your sins. :)
 
I post it to show 'others who deserve it' a fraction of what hell will be like........

who the fuck are you to say who deserves it??

I thought that was up to god?

LOL at omega thinking he's god!
 
I don't believe that the 100's of greek texts that were published and never matched up were infallible

so once again you contradict yourself. God cannot preserve his word!

Or do you mean that only one translation is perfect, and that is the one you have in your home?


Oh wait, you found conflicting verses in that one, so I guess we can rule that one out.
 
just because I find something that conflicts and I cant solve it right away does not mean I throw my hands up in the air and run away :rolleyes: And no, I don't believe I'll go to hell, but no one comes to Christ without accepting that they are sinful and deserve hell. Its a heart change. And whatever, maybe I have issues :rolleyes: or maybe I don't actually believe that. Lol @ you trying to analyze me. Don't. You've got some problem with me because I'm a Christian and all you have is to make it personal; I've never made it personal for you. You look like a dick right now. lol @ you guessing what's going on inside me. You don't know me :rolleyes:
 
I think we miss the point by arguing every point. You believe in a god right ceo? We have that in common. :)

Was it ever a point to establish that we have something in common? Many points have been raised in this thread, it's evolving...one could say even...alive!

It's a discussion. I mean is where you will spend eternity not a point that bears some significance?

:)
 
CEO farking ignore my posts on religious matters :)

Not everything is about you, or what YOU think it is or is not

I am speaking in thematic way....... much like other religious sayings
 
just because I find something that conflicts and I cant solve it right away does not mean I throw my hands up in the air and run away :rolleyes: And no, I don't believe I'll go to hell, but no one comes to Christ without accepting that they are sinful and deserve hell. Its a heart change. And whatever, maybe I have issues :rolleyes:

no one said you run away. Where did you get that idea? It means maybe you aren't right in thinking that the bible is inerrant and perfectly preserved. Certainly looks that way. :)

So, you don't believe you'll go to hell, so stop saying you deserve it. By saying you currently deserve hell, isn't that making the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross worthless? Think about that.

He "paid your wages" (the wages of sin is death), so you no longer deserve hell. Right? To say otherwise is a slap in his face. If you're listening to people who say that, I hope you stop.
 
And by the way

No one could ever say to me to my face "who are you to say"

my invitation is open for you CEO to come see me

I say this in a non threating way of course......


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