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Idiots that own pitbulls

canadianhitman said:
Fast twitch, you asked why anyone would want to own one of the large-breed dogs with a reputation? I'll tell you one good reason: anyone that was thinking of burglarizing or even worse invading your home will change their mind when they see certain dog breeds are on guard. My parents have owned Rottweilers for years...fantastic pets. Yet, it's nice to see how contractors or other service workers dont' even dare get close to the fence when they see the Rott. It's peace of mind...better home protection than any gun.

Yeah, no doubt the assholes in the article I posted had a very secure home. Too bad a 2 year old girl died in this "secure" home.
 
canadianhitman said:
Fast twitch, you asked why anyone would want to own one of the large-breed dogs with a reputation? I'll tell you one good reason: anyone that was thinking of burglarizing or even worse invading your home will change their mind when they see certain dog breeds are on guard. My parents have owned Rottweilers for years...fantastic pets. Yet, it's nice to see how contractors or other service workers dont' even dare get close to the fence when they see the Rott. It's peace of mind...better home protection than any gun.

So you do admit that the purpose of large breeds is to intimidate. That element of superiority -- "people are frightened of my dog, but I can control it." Thank you.
 
I do not care for the so-called vicious breeds -- pits, rotts, dobermans -- but there's no way to regulate these beasts without trampling people's rights.

I would support a neighborhood's property-owners' covenant that bans certain breeds, but any rules above that level would be onerous.
 
Mr. dB said:
So you do admit that the purpose of large breeds is to intimidate. That element of superiority -- "people are frightened of my dog, but I can control it." Thank you.

They have far more purposes than that...I merely illustrated one of the bonuses. My parents dogs were GREAT PETS first, sentries second. As a matter of fact, if an owner knows what they are doing, these dogs are 100% controllable; I have had my parent's current rottie hold a down command even as three rabbits streaked by in the backyard. It's not about an element of superiority, it's about having the peace of mind that your home is that much safer thanks to your loyal guardian.
 
Frisky said:
agree

this fall onto the way the dog is raised... if the dog is brought around kids..

test should be done to see how the dog responds to things like grabbing his tail, putting hand near food and water.. etc etc.. before even considering any child to be around it.. and that goes for ANY DOG.

I had the same mentality before I owned one and saw how caring she was... how loveable and how great she was with my kids. But I raised all of my dogs the same from My POM to my German Shephard to the Pit.... all were around strangers from day one... they knew the boundries and how to warn me if someone was around that shouldn't be.. but they also knew simple commands... if I needed them to step down.

Train the dog... interact with other animals and people... This isn't breed related.

I have a friend that with every dog he's ever owned, he practices taking food from them while they're eating. He starts this from day one, feeding the dog and then going as far as to reach into the dog's mouth to pull the food out. He'll put the bowl down on the floor, let the dog start eating, and then he'll stick his face between the dog's food and the dog to stop it from eating. He does this every time the dog eats for months. As a result, with any dog he's ever owned, anyone can get between the dog and it's food and the dog will stop eating and wait, no other reaction. Anyone can reach into the dog's mouth to pull something out, whether it's food, a toy, or something around the house the dog is chewing on, and the dog just stops.

Him and his brother did this with 2 pure bred red-nosed pit bulls with no problems. He has also done it with his current dog, a sharpei/ridgeback mix. She's stubborn as hell, but she lets anyone do it to her as well.

I did this with the 2 dogs I had and my kids were able to inturrupt the dogs from eating and the dogs would walk away.

My son grabbed the female from behind once and startled her. The dog turned real quck and growled, realized who it was and her tail and ears dropped, then got smacked by me. She never did it again, even when my son was trying to jump up and down on her. The second dog growled at my son once when he was still a puppy. Again, my son startled the dog. The female almost tore the male's throat out. The male never did it again, and he was more tolerant of the kids abusing him than the female was. The female would get up and walk away, even if one of the kids was on top of her. Sure, the kids would fall over, but oh well. The male would just lay there and take it, no complaints.

The only time there was ever an issue with the dogs was over food and that was between the 2 of them. We had to give them table scraps on separate plates and away from each other or they'd fight. No amount of intervention stopped this except taking the food away. I could reach between them when they were growling at each other and they'd stop immediately.

There was only one person my female growled and barked in anger at, and that was one of my neighbors. He was an idiot, hated dogs, and we think he kicked her once or twice but didn't know for sure. He'd taunt her and there were days I wanted to let her off her chain to go attack him. She got used to him hating her and reacted to it naturally. She was fine with everyone else she came into contact with.
 
They are not all like that. Only if trained to be so. I have one and he's the best natured dog that I've ever been around. I never wanted dogs but I got them for my daughter. Rocky might lick a person to death. That dog loves me. He sits outside my bedroom door and whines for me.
 
here's the way I look at it.....pits have been bred to be aggressive fighting dogs......and they just happen to have the strongest jaws that can pretty much crush body part. it's no different than other dogs that have been bred to do specialized things. their aggressiveness is partly instinctual. does that mean they can't make good pets? no, it doesn't. but if you have a dog thats bred over generations to do a certain thing, it's going to take a lot of training and discipline to make that dog into a different type of dog. it's kinda like keeping a sled dog that was bred to run, in an apartment or something.....

but whatever, to each his own. if an owner is dumb enough to have a dangerous untrained dog around a baby and it eats it, they have to live with it.....

if someone's fucking dog attacked me or my family, well, i'll shoot the fucking thing, and it's owner.

lots of dumb people do dumb shit. these schmucks with untrained pits probably drive like morons, let their kids play in the street, and watch professional wrestling. it's just in their blood to be stupid.
 
jerkbox said:
but whatever, to each his own. if an owner is dumb enough to have a dangerous untrained dog around a baby and it eats it, they have to live with it.....


A Dingo Ate My Baby!!
 
Back in the early 1970s I had a friend who kept pit bulls. This was back before pit bulls were well known to the general populace, they were an obscure breed, not recognized by the AKC, and known pretty much only to enthusiasts. My friend and his pit Damien were inseperable, they went everywhere together, and the dog was great around people, friends and strangers alike.

One day my friend went to the store. The store's owner was a friend of theirs, and he came out to pet the dog, who proceeded to bite his nose off.

The plastic surgeons did what they could, but you can tell that his nose is messed up, and it's way too small for his face.

The dog was not euthanized, I don't know the details of the financial arrangements that were made after the incident.

A few years later, the same dog and one of his offspring were shot and killed by a farmer after they had killed a cow and were in the process of taking down a horse whose injuries were sufficient that the animal had to be destroyed.

I had played with these dogs a number of times, and they were as friendly as any Labrador or Golden Retreiver.
 
Mr. dB said:
Back in the early 1970s I had a friend who kept pit bulls. This was back before pit bulls were well known to the general populace, they were an obscure breed, not recognized by the AKC, and known pretty much only to enthusiasts. My friend and his pit Damien were inseperable, they went everywhere together, and the dog was great around people, friends and strangers alike.

One day my friend went to the store. The store's owner was a friend of theirs, and he came out to pet the dog, who proceeded to bite his nose off.

The plastic surgeons did what they could, but you can tell that his nose is messed up, and it's way too small for his face.

The dog was not euthanized, I don't know the details of the financial arrangements that were made after the incident.

A few years later, the same dog and one of his offspring were shot and killed by a farmer after they had killed a cow and were in the process of taking down a horse whose injuries were sufficient that the animal had to be destroyed.

I had played with these dogs a number of times, and they were as friendly as any Labrador or Golden Retreiver.




Yep.....I always laugh at people who say their dogs are sweet and never have the ability to attack. The instinct is always THERE. Given the right circumstances it will take over. Just like it makes me laugh when people want wild animals as pets and tame them. You cant take the wild out of an animal.

I kicked a pitbull off a puppy being attacked. The puppy was standing right next to a 2 year old baby. I just finished listening to the owner telling everyone at the picnic who sweet his dog was and it loved everyone.
 
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