you think after all my posts you would realize that pros take atleast 2000mg of test year round, not counting all the other shit, one guy on the thread was talkin about titus takin 20 cc's in one day, well if your gonna be huge thats what you gotta do, hit every muscle there is.....................so for all you mg and dose cry babies sayin thats too much, or this or that..............if your gonna be huge you gotta take huge amounts of injects all over!!!!!!! NO lie!!!!!!