How did the Pro's of 70's and 80's recover from courses when there was not PCT???

[John McLane]

The 70's and 80's never had Clomid, Tribulus etc, PCT wasn't mentioned then and they all did fine.....so what are we doing wrong? Why are we spending nearly as much as the initial roid course itself on stuff to get our natural testosterone level back when the older generation didn't?? I would be interested to hear responses to this post, especially be interested as to what Nelson thinks.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The 70's and 80's never had Clomid, Tribulus etc, PCT wasn't mentioned then and they all did fine.....so what are we doing wrong? Why are we spending nearly as much as the initial roid course itself on stuff to get our natural testosterone level back when the older generation didn't?? I would be interested to hear responses to this post, especially be interested as to what Nelson thinks.

First of all there was no need for CLomid because it doesn't work anyway. In SOME people it temporarily raises T, in others, it raises estrogen.

People mistake nolva for a recovery drug when it's only an anti gyno drug.

What went wrong? The internet. A few idiots misinterpreted the information and called themselves "gurus." People who came along followed the advice, and passed it along to another generation.

Also, those old time champions used a FRACTION of what the typical gym rat uses today. That's because they knew how to train.

 

[John McLane]

First of all there was no need for CLomid because it doesn't work anyway. In SOME people it temporarily raises T, in others, it raises estrogen.

People mistake nolva for a recovery drug when it's only an anti gyno drug.

What went wrong? The internet. A few idiots misinterpreted the information and called themselves "gurus." People who came along followed the advice, and passed it along to another generation.

Also, those old time champions used a FRACTION of what the typical gym rat uses today. That's because they knew how to train.

You know what Nelson, I reckon you are right......there is no need for a typical gym rat to take 3 or steroids at once....two at the most imo.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You know what Nelson, I reckon you are right......there is no need for a typical gym rat to take 3 or steroids at once....two at the most imo.

More info and link here. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/drugs-dont-work-752617.html

 

[stevesmi]

my guess is they ran short cycles and their HPTA wasn't fully shut down so recovery was easy.

you run a 10 week cycle of deca and i guarantee you that your HPTA is gonna be shut down bigtime.

 

[reno4vegas]

Really liked this thread and the posts.

 

[supro48]

robby robinson said he took 1 shot of deca 100mg every other week 12 weeks out from a show. I know everyone is gonna say all those old timers lie but i think they ate more whole foods and trained a hell of alot more and harder than todays gym rat. Some of them had awesome genetics (robbie etc..) but most of the guys i know that juice today are naturally smaller and want to get big quick and they think more is better which i dont think is the case. when these guys were taking these small amounts and usually it was done leading up to a contest not year round, you dont need pct if cycles are kept sane. I see so many guys on this site that run 3 to 4 steroids stacked and they weigh less than 180lbs wtf.

 

[stupid_rope]

thanks for all the good info in this thread guys. i'm always amazed at the people who argue against juice because it is 'unhealthy' but look at all the athletes from the 60s, 70, 80s and even today with the baseball players. a lot of them are doing very well

i think the US military should have the option of taking them. who doesnt want a bigger, better soldier?