HCG: 10 days straight vs. 3x/wk for 3 weeks

[KOArtist]

Just wondering what the majority of folks opinion is on this...as I see the 10 days straight at 500iu recommended a lot lately, but the "original" protocol seemed to be 1000-1500iu 3x per week for 3 weeks. Not only is the dosing schedule significantly different, but the overall amount of HCG used in the end is also much different (500iu ED for 10 days=5,000iu, while 1500iu 3x per week for 3 weeks=13,500iu!?!?!)

What are the pros/cons/benefits/risks of the two different "theories" that seem to be competing? Vote of course, but please chime in as well, so we might all get a better understanding.

 

[steelmass]

I go with 10.

 

[tempest2003]

no one knows about hcg, we are just guinnie pigs. honestly, no one will give you a straight reaserch backed answer.

 

[KOArtist]

So.....we're basically a buncha jackasses, blindly injecting pregnant women's piss into ourselves? Great to know!!!

 

[Dellyo]

So.....we're basically a buncha jackasses, blindly injecting pregnant women's piss into ourselves? Great to know!!!

LOL....

 

[macrophage69alpha]

So.....we're basically a buncha jackasses, blindly injecting pregnant women's piss into ourselves? Great to know!!!

not exactly.. but to some extent... yes...

HPGA restoral is not all that well researched (there is research and its becoming more prevalent as infertility rates rise)...


HOWEVER, little or none of that research is on AAS users who have suppressed the HPGA with a multitude of androgenic, progestenic and estrogenic steroids....

 

[plifter48]

I have seen some research lately on HCG since MD's have been prescribing it with HRT. If I can find where I have seen it, I will post up the link. 500IU's per day was what was recommended to prevent LH desentization.

 

[BigRupe]

So.....we're basically a buncha jackasses, blindly injecting pregnant women's piss into ourselves? Great to know!!!

There is a rumor floating around that women were so fed up with men injecting them with semen all the time and making them pregnant that they decided to cook up this pregnant woman piss scheme and it's ability to make our nuts bigger.

It's a vast feminist conspiracy

 

[blut wump]

So.....we're basically a buncha jackasses, blindly injecting pregnant women's piss into ourselves? Great to know!!!

lol

I ran 1000 IU EOD for 6 injections and that worked well for me.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I have seen some research lately on HCG since MD's have been prescribing it with HRT. If I can find where I have seen it, I will post up the link. 500IU's per day was what was recommended to prevent LH desentization.

well, I read recently that 250-500iu daily is the optimal dosage because anything more, the body does not utilize.... I'll try to dig up that article... from personal experience, my very first few PCT's were the 1,000 - 1,500iu, 3x's a week for 3 weeks and my results were far from stellar.... my last PCT was 500iu ED for 21 days and it seemed to do a somewhat better job.... I'm going to try that again this time around...maybe 10 days.... going to skip Nolva and run clomid this time...along with an AI... I'll see how that fares and post up results

 

[Prizz]

So.....we're basically a buncha jackasses, blindly injecting pregnant women's piss into ourselves? Great to know!!!

Well, I'm into Golden Showers by Pregnant Women..... So I just shoot the stuff all over my body, and rub it in..... I do 10days straight, 500IU's, and it seems to be working well..... This method is knows as the REALLY NEW style..... My nuts aren't getting any bigger, but I feel more "NUTS" every day, so it's gotta be doing something.....

rizz

 

[Ulter]

The presciption from my endocrinologist reads: 1000iu/day for ten days

That's what I do

 

[Mr.X]

So.....we're basically a buncha jackasses, blindly injecting pregnant women's piss into ourselves? Great to know!!!

500IUs ED for 10 days....IMO, the shorter your time injecting products made from pregnant female urine, the better. Plus, HCG has possible sides to it - like gyno.

 

[darwinmcduck]

I do both. I run it every three days (2500 ius but my system is all to familiar with hcg)for two weeks then I do the ten days (500-1000) and then back to every three days for a week. If you take very much tren or deca then you will almost cetainly have to do this much before long.

 

[Tux]

I do something like 500iu/day for 10 days, or 1000iu/day for a week. Both work great... I like smaller, daily doses... keeps levels more stable, less chance of sides, and shorter overall PCT.

 

[solidspine]

no one knows about hcg, we are just guinnie pigs. honestly, no one will give you a straight reaserch backed answer.

I will give you a clinical research answer,

I have done it both ways and prefer the 500iu for 10 days,


My nuts will agree.


You want more research, then try it and see what happens, if your nuts don’t come back, guess what, it did not work, if they do it did work,



Also if you go as high as Ulter or if you don’t use nolvedex,

explain the bitch tits

Clinically that is.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Update: Agree that 10 days at 500iu/day is best method (for me) so far

 

[Mac173]

Update: Agree that 10 days at 500iu/day is best method (for me) so far

That's what I used last cycle and it seemed to work fine.

 

[halfcenturian]

What about us, dusty-assed, HRT guys?

I shoot twice every week, 250iu/each.

Is that now the wrong protocol?

 

[magman1]

I'll ask a question even more ignorant then the injecting cycle....If one's HCG comes in a vial, but seems to be in powder form....is there a method for converting this?

 

[Mac173]

What about us, dusty-assed, HRT guys?

I shoot twice every week, 250iu/each.

Is that now the wrong protocol?

You are not doing PCT if you are on HRT are you?

 

[Mac173]

I'll ask a question even more ignorant then the injecting cycle....If one's HCG comes in a vial, but seems to be in powder form....is there a method for converting this?

You just add bac water. What exactly are you confused about?

 

[auto14972]

I've also seen a few other recommendations on how to use HCG (just to add a little be more confusion )

The first one is part of the PoWeR post-cycle therapy program which also consists of using clomid and nolvadex. Anyway if I remember correctly the HCG dosage recommend was as Following: (this study was based on 19 males)
1.)2500 IU/QODx16d (Does anyone know if this is right? I'm going off memory here)


Then they're also seem to be recommendations for on or mid cycle HCG use too (250 IU's EOD seems to be popular).
2.)250-500IU EOD of HCG to keep natural testosterone production up during cyle (this was based off a study administering 200mg of Test weekly)

The interesting thing about those to HCG protocols is that they were based off studies (albiet the second one was based off of a considerably small weekly dosage)


Even though every where I read has varying dosage protocols I'd say across the board the overall conclusion is it's best to limit the dosage size and duration of use. I wonder how big of a role dosage frequency plays and what would be better a frequent or infrequent dosing?

 

[Knights2]

some good stuff...some ways work beter for others

 

[genetics]

Update: Agree that 10 days at 500iu/day is best method (for me) so far

when? after cycle's last inject or timed during cycle run?

 

[Nelson Montana]

when? after cycle's last inject or timed during cycle run?

Sometimes, the advic e "do a search" can be taken too far. You can start a new thread on this. At any rate, the debate still rages. I believe you should stave off HCG until you notice atrophy. More than that is a waste.

 

[bigtasty25]

great thread...im doing the 10 day thing ON cycle at 750mcg daily split in 3 doses of 250mcg throughout the day...seems to be working (end of day 6)..although even on 1.25mg letro eod, 50mg proviron+40mg tamox daily...still somewhat bloated for suure...libido kinda low...guess ill just have to put up with it for 4 more days..shit..its worth it though...

 

[skaman007]

I will give you a clinical research answer,

I have done it both ways and prefer the 500iu for 10 days,


My nuts will agree.


You want more research, then try it and see what happens, if your nuts don’t come back, guess what, it did not work, if they do it did work,



Also if you go as high as Ulter or if you don’t use nolvedex,

explain the bitch tits

Clinically that is.

does anyone who takes it 10days straight after last jab,,also take hcg during the whole cycle?

 

[Nelson Montana]

great thread...im doing the 10 day thing ON cycle at 750mcg daily split in 3 doses of 250mcg throughout the day...seems to be working (end of day 6)..although even on 1.25mg letro eod, 50mg proviron+40mg tamox daily...still somewhat bloated for suure...libido kinda low...guess ill just have to put up with it for 4 more days..shit..its worth it though...

What's working? You're bloated and have low libido.

 

[bigtasty25]

i just meant nuts seem like theyre getting bigger...but yeah i know..being a bit bloated is a bitch...even on anti e's...grr

 

[Unit 2005]

personally use 500 iu every other day for 2 weeks. Or 250iu everyday for 2 weeks. wouldnt go with anything more than 1000iu at one time, it can supress test in itself and cause a estrogen spike so keep it low and often rather than large amounts on a less frequent basis.

 

[bigtasty25]

unit..do u find 250iu daily works to bring the boys back up to normal size..from an atrophied state? most use 500-1000 daily spread over 2-4 daily doses..from what ive seen...

 

[bigtasty25]

ttt