GYNO VS GNC VITEX, M and Chrysin deluxe

[Kristoph]

Just went to the Doc about Gyno, He confirmed that i did have gynomastia. He said that he new of nothing that could help me just dont take what i was taking i tried to talk to him about nolvdex etc. He new nothing i guess it was well over his head. My gyno was just a little " bb under neith my nipple that was sore. my cycle was decca and d-bol. I told the doc i was on Pro - Hormons.
about three weeks off i started my Clomid theorpy.. Thats when i got the gyno, i went to the docs the next day.. So after this very disappointing Doc Visit I picked up VITEX, M(Vitexwith transports) and Chrysin delux. All supposed to be anti estrgens, well I took 2g of each through out the day total about 20 pills...
AND The Next Day the tenderness and BB was GONe !!!!
I am still taking them and Clomid hope it stays surpressed
Just wanted wanted a newbee to give you guys some info..

Question: I have never read anything about Chrysin deluxe what do u guys no about it !!
why do u think my gyno went away in a day?
Please keep this string going I think it could help all of us talking about these three ANTI-Estrogens..

 

[nautica]

Well, actually Chrysin sux. If it is all you have then take a bunch of it and it may help a little.

As far as your doc is concerned, he was correct there is nothing, I repeat nothing that will take care of gyno after it has developed. Except surgery.

Anti-e's bind to the estrogen receptors to keep gyno from occuring but once you have it - they will do no good.

Luckily you caught it before the gyno actually developed. Also, clomid is an anti-e - so that may have kept you from getting full blown gyno.

Good luck
nautica

 

[drveejay11]

1)Clomid will decrease estrogen; while it Increases Test via LH stimulation/production. Some people even use clomid as their choice when cycling (others are much better Nolva, Proviron, and especially Arimidex/Liquidex) but its use is MUCH better reserved for "post-cycle" LH use!!!
2)Vitex is great ONLY if your gyno is prolactin-related!
3)Chrysin is "supposed to be" a DHT inhibitor and NOT an anti-E
You may get some (little) positive feedback from the supplement board but you won't get good reviews on this supplement here! Either way----it's intended for DHT inhibition NOT as an estrogen blocker!

Congrats on your success on eradicating your gyno----you're one of the FEW who has had such great overnight success!

 

[georgie24]

what about fat chest from being fat nautica? will vitex help that?
i was overweight pretty much my whole teen life and seemed to accumilate alot of breast type tissue

 

[nautica]

I use liquidex for estrogen related fat stores. Personally, don't have any experience with vitex but I have heard some good things about it.

Nautica

 

[Kristoph]

Now my Doc did say that
That the Body can will crenate( shrink or dryout) those actice cells in the breast , thus Getting rid of Gyno.. such as natural Gyno in adilessence...

My next cycle will be Deca and susteran 250
8 week cycle im going to pyramid up to 400 mg a week on Deca and 500 Mg a week on Susteran...
Should i be concerned with this Gyno Comming back?
how long shouldi wait after my clomid theorpy ?
i haev one more week.
I am 5'6 162 Lb 6 percent body fat.
the cycle is just to get be up to 175... ARRGE NEED TO WORK MY LEGS THIS TIME!!!

 

[nautica]

Yes, you are prone, you should be extremely concerned. I would run liquidex with the test.

Nautica

 

[Kristoph]

I have nolvadex , 20mg quantity 20
and provion , 25 mg quantity 20

would this be enough for the 8 weeks of , DECA and Sust ?
how much more should i get ?

 

[Nathan]

You may want to go with Liquidex since it is the best IMO and should seriosuly limit your chances of making the gyno worse. I am currently using Vitex though I don't have gyno - just some lactation going on, but not much.

I asked a while ago on another post buyt no one responded so I will ask here: How the fuck does vitex work?

 

[LONE_AZ]

Bro, you are making a big mistake with the Deca. Your gyno was either caused by progestin or prolactin or a combo of both. If you want to avoid the gyno problem avoid the Decca. The vitex may have worked this time but do count on it working every time. Usually flare-ups will get progressively worse. You can not control deca related gyno with anti-e’s. As it stands not you probably have a slight up-regulation at the estrogen receptor. This does not go away over night and perhaps may never go away. By raising you prolactin and or progestin via Deca you are playing with fire. Take my advise get rid of the deca…Unless you like having a D-cup.