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Does Diet Soda elicit an insulin response?

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I don't think it will Matter, EVEN if it did cause a rise in insulin, it wouldn't be anything even close to that of white rice/regular soda's, etcs.

Plus with Strict Dieting throughout the day, 1 or 2 diet drinks won't effect shit in a negative manner.

Anyways, It'll be really hard to drink more than that in diet beverages when you're drinking 2 gallons of water at the same time.
 
Tha One CrumCake said:
I don't think it will Matter, EVEN if it did cause a rise in insulin, it wouldn't be anything even close to that of white rice/regular soda's, etcs.
Maybe not. Good point on the rice that I don't see enough discussion about. Rice, whether white or brown has a higher rating on the glycemic index than pure table sugar. Do people really want to eat rice on a cutting cycle?
Tha One CrumCake said:
with Strict Dieting throughout the day, 1 or 2 diet drinks won't effect shit in a negative manner.
Could be. I'm just not sure about that though. Water is always good, but it can only do so much good in this situation since the chemicals from the diet drink will end up in the bloodstream no matter how much water is injested. The water will be good for speeding up the excretion once detoxification has occured. Therefore the real item of conideration is how rapidly a person's liver filters out the formaldihide.
 
Caffeine can cause an insulin spike in sensitive individuals, as well as dehydration. Combined with the chemicals in diet soda which can leach minerals from your system, you should be drinking mineral or distilled water. Pure water is the most important nutrient. I wouldn't call diet soda exactly pure. Avoid it.
 
Nearly all diet sodas are now sweetened with aspertame = nutrasweet. Nutrasweet is made of two naturally occurring amino acids found in nearly everything that we consume. The formaldahyde bullshit is just that, bullshit. It's unfortunate that some Doctors are dumder than Joe Cunt's dog and tend to spread rumors. There is a letter circulating the web written by sone lunitic warning of the evils of "aspertame disease". A few MD's that I know got e-mailed a copy they laughed their asse's off. Colas can cause a ph to cal imbalance if comsumed in excess. I don't see any problems with non colas.
 
Aspartame
Recent media reports have once again questioned the safety of the sweetener, aspartame. The Joint Food Safety and Standards Group (JFSSG) takes any reports about aspartame's safety seriously and has published the following statement on MAFF's website.

Aspartame is an intense sweetener, approximately 200 times sweeter than sugar, which has been used in soft drinks and other low-calorie or sugar-free foods throughout the world for over 25 years. It is sometimes referred to by its original trade name of Nutrasweet and it appears on ingredient lists as either "aspartame"; or "E951".

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Aspartame was first approved for use in the UK in 1982 following a review by the Committee on Toxicity (COT), a committee of independent experts who advise the Government on the safety of food chemicals. The COT fully reviewed aspartame again in 1992 and after studying all the available scientific information confirmed that aspartame is safe for use. The international bodies who advise the World Health Organisation and the European Commission have reached the same conclusion.

Some critics claim that aspartame is linked to a wide range of serious disorders such as multiple sclerosis, lupus erythrematosis, Gulf War Syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, brain tumours and diabetes mellitus. However, most of the data to substantiate these claims is anecdotal and no reliable scientific evidence is available to show that aspartame might be responsible for these conditions.

Some reports also raise concerns about methanol, which is produced when aspartame is broken down in the body. Although large quantities of methanol can be toxic, the amounts derived from aspartame are less than those found naturally in other foods and do not pose a risk to health.

There is a small group of people who cannot safely consume aspartame. These are the sufferers of the inherited disease, phenylketonuria (PKU), who are unable to metabolise the amino acid, phenylalanine effectively, leading to the accumulation of potentially harmful levels. PKU is a serious metabolic disorder which is normally diagnosed shortly after birth by a routine blood test. Sufferers need to follow a very strict diet in order to limit their intake of phenylalanine, which is a normal constituent of protein. Since aspartame is also a source of phenylalanine all food products containing aspartame are clearly labelled to indicate the presence of phenylalanine so that those people who suffer from PKU can avoid consuming these products. This labelling is a legal requirement.

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what about sucralose? i buy drinks called "diet rite" that use sucralose and acesulfame potassium. they cost a little more but they literally taste just like the real shit to me.
 
Nice post Anthrax but the report is biased.

The molecular structure of nutrasweet readily passes the blood/brain barrier where the methanol breakdown will occur. I know many people who get headaches from nutrasweet. Regarding the amount of methanol being small compared to normal foods, obviously this is dose dependent. Many people consume a lot of nutrasweet. So define what is harmful and at what levels - it will vary from person to person and age of person. The newer artificial sweeteners are much better. Nutrasweet actually barely got approved for use in this country, it was like a 4-3 vote by the FDA czars who made the decision under lots of pressure from their sponsors.

Sorry I don't have a link to some rather well-written articles I have read on this topic but FWIW I have decided against nutrasweet.
 
I heard (?urban myth) that the fakes sugars can raise insulin, but hey if you have $ do the test yourself with a diabetic blood kit, consume the diet coke and then every 15 mins read the blood levels, and do a few control studies.... as for amino acids, yeah some are "fast" and some are slow....also gylcemic response and insulin index are two different things....oh and i love diet coke, i can drink a 2 litre bottle easy, but i stick with water now, sucks....
 
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