division 1 athlete looking for an edge

[sweed]

Npp?

nandrolone phenylpropinate (sp)

 

[woodson_c]

Bro, forget about dbol. The way you described your training, the dbol sometimes counteracts the cardio intensity with cramps. Test propionate, NPP, and Anavar will yeild the results that you want without staying in your system too long. Just out of curiosity, do you think that you have reached your natural limit at 20? I didn't stop growing naturally until 24, @230 lbs. How big are some of your relatives? How long have you been at your present weight? I played middle lb in college and some pro ball. I didn't need to hit it until I was 25.

 

[thelegacy again]

I played college ball and had to hide from testing so test prop with winny--keep it low and short my friend---avoid d-bol (made me slow with cramps) dont take anything with bloat-deca would be good except that it stays with you forever so stay away---get with 4-6 week cycles of prop and winny--you really dont need it though man-6'1" 215lbs is a good backer size--shit I was 5'11" 205 linbacker before I started when i played--if i were you i would stick to good supps--it aint worth it if you get caught

 

[TallB4Small]

I would say wait, if you were a kid that just wanted to get big. But really, the fact of the matter is, Unless you are an extraordinary athlete, the juiice is gettin mandatory to take to just be able to compete these days .In sports today it seems like everyone is taking them highschool/college/professional levels. Im not saying everyone should take it, if you play sports. But atleast he is taking it for a purpose, and not because he wants to look good for spring break.
Good luck bro.

 

[DIVISION]

im a little confused....

in your first post you said: " its not easy to evade testing in the NCAA..."

but then you said: "forget about the testing ... random testing is a very loose term in the NCAA especially in the SEC... "

i hope you read my post above...

That's what I was alluding to........the lil' nugga was first concerned about NCAA drug testing, then when I prodded him about it, he's not really worried at all..........I don't get it?

That's a serious concern, he get's popped, he might lose his scholarship and eligibility.....so I would think it's a serious matter.





DIV

 

[DIVISION]

Someone of your size should have some Dbol in the cycle.

Saying that I don't think that you should be taking the drugs for a few more years:

You should have lots of growth-enducing hormones rushing around your body already. All of that will be prematurely killed when you do your first cycle, and they will NEVER be as potent after that.

I agree, but he's going to do it anyway, so might as well give him the legit info.



DIV

 

[lefler]

I agree, but he's going to do it anyway, so might as well give him the legit info.



DIV

no doubt....

prop, winny(tabs!!), var

 

[DIVISION]

no doubt....

prop, winny(tabs!!), var

The way he came off, I think he'll end up doing Deca.........and then he'll be fucked......

NCAA testing.......blah, blah, blah.........





DIV

 

[trenfan2]

bro, what makes yo so sure you wont get tested? you do know that the ncaa now tests EVERY football team at least once a year dont you? its a new rule. and if you make it to a bowl game you WILL get tested again. at my school last year they came 3 times. this year just 1 time so far. if you do deca you'll be in trouble for 2 years worth of testing. if you are serious about football you will not do deca, trust me.



check out this link to the ncaa website:http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_testing/d1_yr_faq.html

From that link:
Who will be drug tested beginning 2004-05 academic year?

Every Division I institution will be drug tested at least once each academic year beginning this fall. Please know, however, that your institution may be selected for testing more than once each academic year.
Every Division I sport your institution sponsors is now subject to out-of-competition (year-round) drug testing.
If your institution sponsors football, 18 football student-athletes plus eight student-athletes from one additional sport will be randomly selected for drug testing.
If your institution does not sponsor football, only eight student-athletes from one sport will be randomly selected


so as you can see, your team Will get tested at least 1 time and maybe more.....DECA = STUPID!!

I gotta agree with the above statement. I would be sure that you know the risks up front and are ready for whatever consequences could befall you. But with that said, if your certain you can't progress further naturally quick enough to meet your goals I'd stick with somemthing simple with a short halflife, prob test prop and something to keep off the water followed by simple PCT. I was in your boat once and would be a huge hypocrite if I told you to lay off . But, in my case I knew from day one I wouldn't be going further than the collegiate level (I was a 6' 220, non starting MLB ) and I also wasn't relying on a check from the school every season.
Whatever you decide, I wish you luck.

Oh, and I gotta say...Go big 10, baby!

 

[lefler]

The way he came off, I think he'll end up doing Deca.........and then he'll be fucked......

NCAA testing.......blah, blah, blah.........






DIV

yeah, i dont understand.....the only safe time is the summer but the ncaa can come in during camp which starts in august. school gets out in the 1st week of may. that gives you a little over 3 months to do a cycle then get clean. you waste half of this time waiting for the deca to kick in.

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_testing/0203results.html

here is a link to the ncaa results from 02 - 03. notice the most common bust is deca. eq in a close 2nd.