Carbs in MRPSs?

[gymtime]

Are the carbohydrates found in a low carb, low cal MRPS simple or complex?

According to the numbers on my MRPS, it has 5gr/carbs per serving. I'm assuming whatever sweetener they use counts for a small amount of simple carbs. But the whey would account for whatever remaining complex carbs. But not entirely sure about that. Anyone know?

 

[=w=]

in most meal replacements it is maltodextrin which is technically a complex carb but has a GI score of 105 and is also very high on the insulin index (so basically not the best source of carbs).

 

[javaguru]

Yep, that's why I don't use an MRP. The maltodextrin gives too much of an insulin response. I use protein powder and oatmeal.

 

[gymtime]

Yep, that's why I don't use an MRP. The maltodextrin gives too much of an insulin response. I use protein powder and oatmeal.

As in straight protein powder? I'm looking for a good post am cardio meal. Someone suggested what you did, pp and oatmeal. I assumed he meant pp as in mrps. I've been eating cottage cheese and pineapple for this up to now. Seems I need to change that up.

 

[riskybizz007]

Wsup GT? Well if you're looking for that insulin spike i'd go w/ the MRP. Even though Maltodextrin is complex carb (some are some are not) it will shoot up insulin levels much like your regular Dextrose and Protein shake. Problem w/ the Maltodextrin is some of it is actually simple sugars not bonded together, and if you get a cheap Maltodextrin you're going to end up w/ a bunch of it nonbonded. What makes it complex is that it's suppossed to be bonded together, but not all maltodextrins are created equal. From what i read this is what i understood. So i think Maltodextrin is a bit of a rip off b/c you really don't know the quality of it.
Well about your AM cardio, if you want to shoot up insulin the MRP is a great idea as well as your regular dextrose/whey shake. If you have Oatmeal you will have a much longer sustained release of carbs, but combined w/ whey, the whey will be in and out of your system in less than 2 hours. IMO it depends on how much time you have on your hands, and when can your next meal be. If you have time to square in another meal before work i'd go for the shake then in an hour or two eat the oatmeal and something solid that's protein like eggs.
One question though that i'm not too sure about... Is the whey/dextrose or MRP really all that useful after morning cardio? I know after you lift you need it, but do you really need it w/ cardio too? I personally find it a bit harder to lose weight when i gulp down the shake after cardio, but that's what a lot of lifters have recommended to me.

 

[Golfer18--old]

Myoplex Low Carb bars have Maltrodexin in them

 

[gymtime]

Hey buddy!! Not looking for the insulin spike per se. What I'm looking for is a good post am cardio workout meal with something other than simple carbs. Which is what I've been doing up to now. It doesn't necessarily need to be a shake, just some kind of protein I can incorporate with the carb (oatmeal or whatever).

I usually eat the first meal at about 8:30 am after a 40 minute run. Don't eat again until 11:30.

 

[saxman]

On a positive note, protein does decrease the overall insulin spike when combined with carbohydrates. I don't know how big of a factor it has, but I do know that the protein does play a role. For cutting and trying to get very lean it would probably be a very good idea to use a protein powder with low or zero carbs then choose lower glycemic indexed carbs like oatmeal. Some people react differently too. I use MRP's a lot and I don't have a problem staying lean. I usually feel pretty good too. Overall, I don't think there is enough maltodextrin in most MRP's to cause any serious effects or take away from your training.

On a side note, there are a few MRP's that use lower glycemic carbs. I know Betastatin does, Biotest Grow! (which is discontinued for now), and Prolab's MRP. If you see fructose as the main source of carbs, even though it is a sugar, it has a much lower GI than that of maltodextrin. Betastatin actually uses brown rice and oats I believe.

 

[gymtime]

saxman, good info bro. I've only ever used the low carb, low cal MRPSs. The one I use has like 5 gr of carbs per serving (which is 2.5 scoops I believe). So would that be ok to mix with oatmeal?

 

[riskybizz007]

bro if you're going to go 3 hours w/out eating i recommend you either try to get some solid source of protein in like eggs or low fat sausages or something OR try to get some casseinate. They whey will just go in and out like nothing especially after a run.