BreakDown

[rez]

Everything I've heard about metabolism says to eat as soon as you wake up to get out of a catabolic state-I think you are making an error there

so whats the verdict? eat as soon as u wakeup..before training?

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Cardio on an Empty Stomach.

Weight training later on in the day, if you train early in the morning have something light, perhaps 1 serving of Whey, Tea with a tablespoon of Honey mixed in.

 

[VooDoo Lady]

"Steel Mill Oats"

What's this? Just a name brand? I did a search and only found this one ref to it.

Thanks...

 

[PwB]

The One Crumcake, the diet looks great, and based on your previous bodyfat % u obviously know what your doing. The ratios are great, that's what Dr. Serrano recommends for fat loss. I'd up the protein post-workout, it would do wonders improving recovery and sparing muscle mass, as well as increasing the arginine post-workout. U probably know this but argining increases glycogen storage by a large amount (can't remember exact %) and as a bonus increases NO so helps in the sack too.
The whole idea of eating immediately upon rising doesn't make sense to me. The body is in a detoxification state up until noon time, and many feel better waiting to eat till then. Also, GH is highest at night, and the body is burning fat, this isn't the most catabolic environment to be in.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

The One Crumcake, the diet looks great, and based on your previous bodyfat % u obviously know what your doing. The ratios are great, that's what Dr. Serrano recommends for fat loss. I'd up the protein post-workout, it would do wonders improving recovery and sparing muscle mass, as well as increasing the arginine post-workout. U probably know this but argining increases glycogen storage by a large amount (can't remember exact %) and as a bonus increases NO so helps in the sack too.
The whole idea of eating immediately upon rising doesn't make sense to me. The body is in a detoxification state up until noon time, and many feel better waiting to eat till then. Also, GH is highest at night, and the body is burning fat, this isn't the most catabolic environment to be in.

I'm agreeing with you on everything. Tha only reason I eat 25 grams of so of protein post workout, is because I take a Pre-made workout drink "Surge" By Biotest, immediatly after I workout, we are talking literally 2 minutes after I finish my last rep.

By the time I get home from the gym and cook my Salmon/Steak and veggies about an hour goes by, then I have about 50 grams of Solid protein.

So in the course of 1 hour after I work out i'm getting about 75 grams of protein in. I'm Upping the L-Arginine Postwork out to 4 grams with in that One hour.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

"Steel Mill Oats"

What's this? Just a name brand? I did a search and only found this one ref to it.

Thanks...

I got them from Trader Joes, they are oatmeal, but they are cut differently, it looks like a buncha lil grains. Also they are fortified with extra Vitamins and have a different taste. Tastes a lil more foresty.

I like em though.

 

[PANTS]

Why the 50 mg of Zinc? Isn't that too much? Copper depletion?

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Why the 50 mg of Zinc? Isn't that too much? Copper depletion?

50 works for me, I feel GREAT when I take 50mgs of Zinc and night right before bed.

Go for 30mgs, that should be just fine, Actually I wouldn't mind doing 30mgs it's just that I already have the 50mgs tabs.

If you're really worried, take some Copper, 2mgs or so as well.

Peace

 

[Blackalpha]

Everything I've heard about metabolism says to eat as soon as you wake up to get out of a catabolic state-I think you are making an error there

What he does is perfect and let me tell you why:

The best time to take BCAA's is on an empty stomach (thus before breakfast).
In addition he throws in 1g. of Vit C which dramatically enhances absorption.
He also has some glutamine there to act as an anticatabolic and stop cortisol eating his muscles.

I highly aprove this schedule.
It's a very complete and smart designed diet,indeed.

Just consider planning some carb refeeds every 3-5 days as well.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Just consider planning some carb refeeds every 3-5 days as well.

Every 5 Days or So I do a Two a day workout, morning and early evening.

On that day I take in roughly 75 grams of Carbs post workout, for each workout, and roughly another 150 grams of carbs coming from Wild Rice, OatMeal and Bananas/NonFAT Milk/Whey Protein Shakes