Better for stubborn Estro. fat deposits ?

[feelin_kinda_saucey]

what product would be better for stubborn estrogenic related fat deposits on your waiste line? Yohimburn, or Liqiudex ? or the combo of both? and at what dosage would results be noticable?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Both!The Yohimburn will act site-specifically on the A2's,while the liquidex will regulate E production at it's root,making it less available to interact with the A2's.Macro will be able to give best directions on the Yohimburn,and I personally use 1mg/ED or EOD while cutting to suppress E.

 

[feelin_kinda_saucey]

would the liquidex work at 1mg ed or eod while not on a cycle of as or aas to reduce built up estrogeninc fat deposits ?

 

[beefybull]

I have a feeling that 200mg DNP, NYC or ECA, Yohimburn, Bromocriptine & Liquidex or Femara would be a pretty bitchin fat loss supplement regimen to run for a while.

Could, say 25mcg of T3 be added to this or would there even be a point?

 

[Greek Freak]

Both!The Yohimburn will act site-specifically on the A2's,while the liquidex will regulate E production at it's root,making it less available to interact with the A2's.Macro will be able to give best directions on the Yohimburn,and I personally use 1mg/ED or EOD while cutting to suppress E.

exactly

 

[serge]

what product would be better for stubborn estrogenic related fat deposits on your waiste line? Yohimburn, or Liqiudex ? or the combo of both? and at what dosage would results be noticable?

i would go with yohimburn and femera (generic clones are very inexpensive), liquidex is fine but femera packs more kick

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Re: Re: Better for stubborn Estro. fat deposits ?

i would go with yohimburn and femera (generic clones are very inexpensive), liquidex is fine but femera packs more kick

Hmm,not me,particularly gear free.Femara makes my joints ache like a mo-fo when cutting.I would only use femara on high dose aromitizable gear runs where aromitase is prolific,and even there l-dex does the job for me and my training partners.I think femara is a little too powerful to be messing with unless the situation completely warrants its use.

 

[beefybull]

Hey Huck, got an answer for me?

 

[quadrat]

I'm genetically prone to estrogenic fat deposits at waist, and all around it.
Will there be yoyo effect on the estrogenic fat deposits after finishing Yohimburn+Liquidex? How permanent are the results from such combo?

 

[serge]

Re: Re: Re: Better for stubborn Estro. fat deposits ?

Hmm,not me,particularly gear free.Femara makes my joints ache like a mo-fo when cutting.I would only use femara on high dose aromitizable gear runs where aromitase is prolific,and even there l-dex does the job for me and my training partners.I think femara is a little too powerful to be messing with unless the situation completely warrants its use.

im running it right now, post cycle, just got off everything, sex drive is climing up daily, look nice and dry, no soar joints at all, no post cycle fat gains so far

 

[serge]

I'm genetically prone to estrogenic fat deposits at waist, and all around it.
Will there be yoyo effect on the estrogenic fat deposits after finishing Yohimburn+Liquidex? How permanent are the results from such combo?

bro, if you are geneticly prone to esto fat deposits then go with the best bang, in this case femera; every1 who used it will agree it blow l-dex right out

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

every1 who used it will agree it blow l-dex right out

Actually,wrong again there serge,I HAVE ran them both,and on more than one occassion now.I give femara the SLIGHT edge in terms of results,but not by very much,and that's just on heavy doses of aromitizable gear,not cutting.L-dex worked just as well if not better,because my training partner and I's joints didn't dry out nearly as much on the l-dex and it kept us hard as nails.We also noticed some slight E rebound(mainly in the form of bloat)upon cessation.Femara is a great drug that most definitely has its place,but you heavily underestimate l-dex with those statements.

 

[hitmeoff]

I have a feeling that 200mg DNP, NYC or ECA, Yohimburn, Bromocriptine & Liquidex or Femara would be a pretty bitchin fat loss supplement regimen to run for a while.

Could, say 25mcg of T3 be added to this or would there even be a point?

Well DNP suppresses T3 production so supplementing 25mcg of T3 would defintiely help

 

[serge]

you heavily underestimate l-dex with those statements.

i have ran 1mg/arimidex/ed with 1g/test/week and saw some water retension, when i replaced it with femera 2.5mg/ed got much denser and dryer

 

[serge]

Huck, and you cant possibly ignore the fact that arimidex lowers your IGF-1 levels where as femera has been shown to boost it

 

[gUiLe]

That does it!! I am now going to use l-dex with my Yohimburn. I
have been on a fence about it but wtf. I just wish it was a lil
cheaper
g

 

[serge]

That does it!! I am now going to use l-dex with my Yohimburn. I
have been on a fence about it but wtf. I just wish it was a lil
cheaper
g

$2/mg for ldex is pretty cheap

 

[gUiLe]

$2/mg for ldex is pretty cheap

Cheaper and better then Aridmix I'll admit, but were still talkin
bout close to $200 bux for a jug.
g

 

[serge]

Cheaper and better then Aridmix I'll admit, but were still talkin
bout close to $200 bux for a jug.
g

you can get them in multiples of 30mgs=$60

 

[gUiLe]

you can get them in multiples of 30mgs=$60

Hmmm...I did not know that. (said in Jonny Carson voice)

 

[RICOSUAVE]

any comments on ARIMiDEX and yohimburn post cycle???
how good doe it works and how much of each??

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

any comments on ARIMiDEX and yohimburn post cycle???
how good doe it works and how much of each??

Liquidex IS arimidex(in suspension).
.5mg/day(1/2 tab)or 1mg EOD will suffice.

 

[feelin_kinda_saucey]

how long should the liquidex be run for when using it in this manner ?? and at what dosage ?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Read the previous posts for dosaging patterns.It can be ran for up to 3 months at a time,after that,take at least 4-6 weeks off to let your body achieve homeostasis.

 

[RICOSUAVE]

Thanks Huck!!

 

[EngiCream]

Huck, and you cant possibly ignore the fact that arimidex lowers your IGF-1 levels where as femera has been shown to boost it

Hey serge, have you read this article by Animal?

Just say no to E!

This is the part that caught my attention. I really don't know if it's true or not though. What are your thoughts?

Let's first look elsewhere at another mechanism where we have an insulin rise after a workout from recovery drinks causing a DECREASE in blood levels of Testosterone.

Does that mean that the drink or workout is causing LOWER testosterone levels?

Hell NO! The insulin causes the T to clear from the blood faster after the workout and the very same could be true of the supposed drop in I with anastrozol use above!

Damn if it doesn't look like we can throw a lot of animal studies out as it's not so much contradictory about what hormone does what but it is well known that T causes a rise in H and T and T3 and H are closely related, too, so to say that 'androgens in animals' caused a lowering or rising of one thing or another CANNOT be extrapolated to humans.

So we don't know if the I is being used better or not, but it seems that IT MOST CERTAINLY IS because if H is the same, and I is going down in the blood, is the H not being converted to I any longer by the liver? I would say SAID scenario is not the case plainly if nothing more than because more H floating around would cause a REDUCTION in H production and we didn't see that, either.

And anyone will tell you that certain hormones make you incredibly hungry and when they try I, they found the same 'hunger'.

 

[scrh1]

For super results use Hucks formula. I'm currently in week 2 of a combo:

1) 2 NYC tabs pre cardio on empty stomach in morning.
2) Using yohimburn or lipoderm...whatever you have...nearly identical.
3) Img day of liquidex. ( considering dropping to this EOD or 1/2mg ED )

results are very noticeable towards end of week 2 ! stomach is shrinking away as well as the chest fat.. My pants are falling off the waist. My face is looking very thin also! Good luck.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

For super results use Hucks formula. I'm currently in week 2 of a combo:

1) 2 NYC tabs pre cardio on empty stomach in morning.
2) Using yohimburn or lipoderm...whatever you have...nearly identical.
3) Img day of liquidex. ( considering dropping to this EOD or 1/2mg ED )

results are very noticeable towards end of week 2 ! stomach is shrinking away as well as the chest fat.. My pants are falling off the waist. My face is looking very thin also! Good luck.

 

[serge]

Hey serge, have you read this article by Animal?

Just say no to E!

This is the part that caught my attention. I really don't know if it's true or not though. What are your thoughts?

need to read the entire article

 

[scrh1]

I would look at lipo as a last resort only. I have had great success on the chemical + natural supps and substance end . ( fighting this fat for most of my life and finally seeing results...trust me I thought about lipo alot! My motto has always been " better living through modern chemistry" Oh yeah..Thanks again Huck! I'll post more updates as I just started the var + fina on top of the fat cutting efforts.

 

[lonewulf]

I've never used femara(not available to me), but liquidex is great. I notice greatly reduced water retention, and increased hardness and vascularity, I agree with huck that liq is a great product. Also, I dont think anastrozole's effect on IGF-1 is very significant, not to a degree of influencing muscle size or strenghth. At least I dont notice anything.-WULF