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Anyone think that Ecstacy has made them dumb?
- Thread starter Tuna Guy
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I'm sure it hasn't helped me at all but K is what made me stupid..That shit fucks my vocab up bad and memory.. I haven't been doing it so I have noticed an improvement in speech and memory. But, the day after K especially doing jars of it WILL have a noticable effect on you. I think X has giving me permanent anxiety attacks. Their not that bad but it does suck. I can't take that shit anymore..
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Torch
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My friend blinks and moves his mouth because he has done so much E. He never used to do this shit before. Studders too!
I find it hard for me to take a piss sometimes. When I used to get fucked up off E I couldnt relax enough to take a piss and now I have trouble . It would get to the point (when fucked up) that I would get in the shower ( at home) and let water run on my dick so I could take a fucking piss. Now that is some frustrating shit guys but when I did get it flowing it was orgasmic.
Coming down and trying to sleep I would twitch and wake myself up. That is just a few off the top of my head.
I find it hard for me to take a piss sometimes. When I used to get fucked up off E I couldnt relax enough to take a piss and now I have trouble . It would get to the point (when fucked up) that I would get in the shower ( at home) and let water run on my dick so I could take a fucking piss. Now that is some frustrating shit guys but when I did get it flowing it was orgasmic.
Coming down and trying to sleep I would twitch and wake myself up. That is just a few off the top of my head.
crimson coal
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It screws up short term memory real bad. Mty brother went on a binge on E for a few weeks and was asking me shit all day long that he had already asked me. It was almost comical if it wasn't so fucked up.
Damn guys, you guys need to cool it!!!
Never tried X or K, not planning on either. GHB does seem
to increase my mental awareness.
GHB seems to increase my perception of things WITHOUT
affecting long or short-term memory.........BUT you have yo learn
to control the Libido boost, which is QUITE big.
The ony thing that has ANY discernable effect on me is
75mg EPH. Sulfate+400 caff after a DNP cycle.
I get SO HYPER I just talk so fast its funny as hell..........LOL
Fonz
Never tried X or K, not planning on either. GHB does seem
to increase my mental awareness.
GHB seems to increase my perception of things WITHOUT
affecting long or short-term memory.........BUT you have yo learn
to control the Libido boost, which is QUITE big.
The ony thing that has ANY discernable effect on me is
75mg EPH. Sulfate+400 caff after a DNP cycle.
I get SO HYPER I just talk so fast its funny as hell..........LOL
Fonz
I have taken many drgs before, and I can safely say that popping pills has not slowed down my mental capacityat all. In fact, I think smoking weed did the most harm to me than any other drug (other than acid) I took. Of course, I smoked weed longer and in greater amounts than the other drugs. But the only sides that you get from beans are possible neurotoxicity and suppressed serotonin levels--which sucks hadcore cause it makes you really depressed all the time. This only happened to me when I was popping pills every weekend though.
Anyway, I'll get to my point now. I think ectacy has gotten a bad rap not because of what it is supposed to be (MDMA--true ectacy), but because of all the crap drugs that people put in it to save moeny. I could go on and on about this, but I won't. Basically, you could have gotten "slow" from HEAVEY use of ectacy, or you simply got shitty pills all the time that contained other drugs that fuck you up much more.
Anyway, I'll get to my point now. I think ectacy has gotten a bad rap not because of what it is supposed to be (MDMA--true ectacy), but because of all the crap drugs that people put in it to save moeny. I could go on and on about this, but I won't. Basically, you could have gotten "slow" from HEAVEY use of ectacy, or you simply got shitty pills all the time that contained other drugs that fuck you up much more.
Well i can say that X and K have both made me have the worst memory throughout all my friends. I forget things constantly, i am always trying to remember the simplist things. In all honesty i am scared to say that when i go clubbing i pop pills, thats why i am trying to stay away from the scene. IF you are a constant clubber you know what i mean, it becomes part of your lifestyle, you can't go clubbing without it. and that fucking sucks. Anyway, lets hope whatever damaged we do can be reversed in the long run...
M56M
M56M
i got to where i was doing E every thurs,fri,sat, and sunday nights. my roomate and i were eating like 3-5 per night. i was soooo fucking stupid that i can't beleive i never lost my job.
i had the short term memory loss, but the two big poblems i had were forming sentances when speaking and having to stop in the middle of a sentance to remmber what the hell i was talking about. my mind would just go blank.
i havn't done any since about may. i almost feel normal again. but it's been hard to shake that feeling of being stupid. i work with numbers all day and had no attention span. i made so many fucking mistakes
like i said, i'm lucky i didn't get fired. and one other thing. everybody i worked with had to know i was on something but never called me out on it. i've seen pic's of me from those times and think to myself "what the fuck was i doing"? i hope there arn't too many long term problems in store for me. .. .
but like one of the other bro's said. everytime i go out, i can't have fun. either i need the E or i'm getting old. i hope it's just that i'm getting old.
i had the short term memory loss, but the two big poblems i had were forming sentances when speaking and having to stop in the middle of a sentance to remmber what the hell i was talking about. my mind would just go blank.
i havn't done any since about may. i almost feel normal again. but it's been hard to shake that feeling of being stupid. i work with numbers all day and had no attention span. i made so many fucking mistakes
like i said, i'm lucky i didn't get fired. and one other thing. everybody i worked with had to know i was on something but never called me out on it. i've seen pic's of me from those times and think to myself "what the fuck was i doing"? i hope there arn't too many long term problems in store for me. .. .
but like one of the other bro's said. everytime i go out, i can't have fun. either i need the E or i'm getting old. i hope it's just that i'm getting old.
Godfather123
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yes x does destroy your brain. for everone its diffirent. when you stop using your brain like the other ogans in you body has the abilit to repair itself but some damage is perminent if you had a cat scan or brain scan youd see dark spots all over your brain those spots are where oxygen has deprieved
I was heavy into it (X) back in the early 90's. I became a dealer and in turn ate a lot. I can say it hasn't made me stupid. the only side effect that remained is slight anxiety. that's why I'm on this mission to help get my serotonin levels back to normal naturally. by ways of certain amino acids and B-vits.
stay away from that shit. screws you up big time in the long run. peace.
stay away from that shit. screws you up big time in the long run. peace.
Immortal Juicer
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moderation is the key
abusing any drug will have harmful effects. i really think it is all in your head. if you roll and you think that rolling will affect your memory, concentration etc.. then you will become extra aware of shit you didnt even think about before. if you forgot your key before you started doing X, you just forgot your keys. now, its the X killing your brain cells. alot of the time you arent even taking MDMA, just some other shit. if you had one good pill and then a few weeks later a different pill that was either not as good or better than the last, one of them wanst MDMA, but your paranoid ass is going to be "forgetting" shit all week because of you "rolled" last weekend. MDMA affects your body's seratonin just like Prozac, Zoloft or any other SSRI only to a further extreme. You cant tell me that someone taking Prozac every day for the past five years is fine but someone who takes X twice a month is hurting themselves.
If anything, I've found that X has made me more outgoing and more social even when I'm not rolling. I sure as hell couldnt dance like I can now before I started rolling! I made the Deans list last semester and learned to speak Spanish fluently last summer. Not bad for someone who fries their brain Saturday night.
Albert Einstein, Freud, and Thomas Jefferson and many other of the greatest geniuses of their time were all drug users; but so was the bum on the street and some of the other idiots of their time.
As far for X causing depression, the only time I'm depressed the day afted I roll is if I spend all money.
The strongest effect X causes is the placebo effect. Its all in your mind. Another thing is, if you did take X and it fucked up your head, too fucking late. You can change the past. So quit putting a guilt trip on yourself and have fun. Life is way too short.
abusing any drug will have harmful effects. i really think it is all in your head. if you roll and you think that rolling will affect your memory, concentration etc.. then you will become extra aware of shit you didnt even think about before. if you forgot your key before you started doing X, you just forgot your keys. now, its the X killing your brain cells. alot of the time you arent even taking MDMA, just some other shit. if you had one good pill and then a few weeks later a different pill that was either not as good or better than the last, one of them wanst MDMA, but your paranoid ass is going to be "forgetting" shit all week because of you "rolled" last weekend. MDMA affects your body's seratonin just like Prozac, Zoloft or any other SSRI only to a further extreme. You cant tell me that someone taking Prozac every day for the past five years is fine but someone who takes X twice a month is hurting themselves.
If anything, I've found that X has made me more outgoing and more social even when I'm not rolling. I sure as hell couldnt dance like I can now before I started rolling! I made the Deans list last semester and learned to speak Spanish fluently last summer. Not bad for someone who fries their brain Saturday night.
Albert Einstein, Freud, and Thomas Jefferson and many other of the greatest geniuses of their time were all drug users; but so was the bum on the street and some of the other idiots of their time.
As far for X causing depression, the only time I'm depressed the day afted I roll is if I spend all money.
The strongest effect X causes is the placebo effect. Its all in your mind. Another thing is, if you did take X and it fucked up your head, too fucking late. You can change the past. So quit putting a guilt trip on yourself and have fun. Life is way too short.
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been using X on, and off for two years. I have not really noticed; any memory lost. I do get post roll depression. this is usually elevated, by using 5htp and kava kava, for about three days. I am a firm believer, that moderation is the key. I never roll, for consecutive days, or weeks.
Immortal Juicer
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The only depression is post roll depression, not long term. You take the drug, your body reacts to it, you stop taking the drug, your body responds to not having it. If you have taken X and your worried about being depressed in 10 years, dont. You wont be any more depressed than you are now unless you take more pills.
That would be the equilivent of saying that if you take steroids you wont be producing test in 10 years. And we all know better than that.
The biggest strength of the human body is its ability to adapt.
That would be the equilivent of saying that if you take steroids you wont be producing test in 10 years. And we all know better than that.
The biggest strength of the human body is its ability to adapt.
BigDdaGanjalist
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I feel fine memory wise. . .
But Im seeking help from a shrink for an OCD I think I have. . .
But Im seeking help from a shrink for an OCD I think I have. . .
littleswoll
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Been around and involved with x for about a year now it's funny I've seen this post today because just yesterday I was thinking of how I get tied up when trying to let out a sentence now and how its hard remembering something that happened five minutes ago. I definitely think it has affected my short term memory. I don't only notice it in myself but my friends too. I'm going to try to stay away from it for awile I've had my fun and it's not like it use to be anyway.
littleswoll said:
i feel that bro, its just not the same. I am not sure if the pills are not as good, or my body doesn't react the same anymore. Either way i am not dropping anymore, going to see if my brain can come back, becuase my memory is really shot to hell. Its kinda scary how bad it is.
M56M
Regardin X and brain damage.......
First i wanna say this....you dudes who are dropping X every weekend/every other weekend would be very wise to educate yourself on the effects these drugs have on ur nervous system... Xstasy happens to be very very powerful and despite what Immortal Juicer says, it does cause brain damage.
Your brain is composed primarily of two types of cells. Neurons and glial cells. Neurons are responsible for "thinking", glial cells act as support cells for neuronal cells.
Neurons transfer information by relaying bioelectric signals to each other. Neurons are not physically connected, rather they are seperated by synapatic gaps. WHen a neuron is triggered, it propagates a biolelectrical signal down its cell body. At the end, or the "axon terminal", the neuron releases a neurotransmitter into the snyaptic gap....or the space seperating one neuron from another......the neurotransmitter acts to signal the post snyaptic neuron to intiate a new bioelectric signal to propegate "information"
X works by:
1) increasing production of the neurotransmitter serotonin within the neuron
2) increasing the release of serotonin
3) prevents the reuptake of serotonin in the snyaptic gap
Y is X bad?
Ecstasy works similary to antidepressents (SSRI and MAOI class) but magnified by about 100 fold.
Essientially, E turns on the serontonin taps, and floods the snyaptic gap with serotonin. This flood of serontonin acts to "burn" the receptor cells on post-synaptic neurons, or neurons that are "downstream" of the serotonin releasing neuron ........Once the post synaptic neuronal receptors are damaged , they no longer have the ability to receive neurotransmitter signals from other neurons........
In order for a neuron to survive, it needs to recieve input signals from presynaptic cells. Once, the neuron stops receiving input from presynaptic cells due to neuronal receptor degradation, it dies.
A person is born with as many neurons as they will ever have. Neurons in the brain and spinal cord do no regenerate themselves when damaged, which incidently explains why there is no cure for paralysis due to damage of the spinal cord. ......anyhow, the point being, once you kill a brain neuron, it doesnt grow back.
E works primarily on serotongenic neurons. The hippocampus, a brain structure that has been implicated with *learning* and *memory*, has been associated with neuronal degradation when exposed to E (because the hippocampus is innervated with a high percentage of serotongenic neurons, or neurons that primarly use serotonin as a neurotransmitter) ...... when hippocampal neuronal cells die, the cognitive functionality (learning and memory) of the hippocampus is reduced, which explains why u feel "stupid" after an E binge...
The good news is that every human brain exhibits some degree of neuronal plasticity. This means that existing neurons can compensate by carrying additional information dead or damaged neurons no longer transmit. HOWEVER, this plasticity can never compensate fully for the irreperable neuronal death caused by E. Neuronal plasticity will only slow the damage caused by X
-----Dont listen to the bullshit that X doesnt cause brain damage. It causes significant neuronal death = brain damage .
If you want to take it, mabey once a year, or once every 6 months. Dont dose more than 1-2 hits a night. MDMA and MDA and the whole methlyene-dioxy-meth- family is neurotoxic. The more u take in one sitting , the more neurotoxic it is, therefore the more neuronal damage youll cause.
Sleep tight...
First i wanna say this....you dudes who are dropping X every weekend/every other weekend would be very wise to educate yourself on the effects these drugs have on ur nervous system... Xstasy happens to be very very powerful and despite what Immortal Juicer says, it does cause brain damage.
Your brain is composed primarily of two types of cells. Neurons and glial cells. Neurons are responsible for "thinking", glial cells act as support cells for neuronal cells.
Neurons transfer information by relaying bioelectric signals to each other. Neurons are not physically connected, rather they are seperated by synapatic gaps. WHen a neuron is triggered, it propagates a biolelectrical signal down its cell body. At the end, or the "axon terminal", the neuron releases a neurotransmitter into the snyaptic gap....or the space seperating one neuron from another......the neurotransmitter acts to signal the post snyaptic neuron to intiate a new bioelectric signal to propegate "information"
X works by:
1) increasing production of the neurotransmitter serotonin within the neuron
2) increasing the release of serotonin
3) prevents the reuptake of serotonin in the snyaptic gap
Y is X bad?
Ecstasy works similary to antidepressents (SSRI and MAOI class) but magnified by about 100 fold.
Essientially, E turns on the serontonin taps, and floods the snyaptic gap with serotonin. This flood of serontonin acts to "burn" the receptor cells on post-synaptic neurons, or neurons that are "downstream" of the serotonin releasing neuron ........Once the post synaptic neuronal receptors are damaged , they no longer have the ability to receive neurotransmitter signals from other neurons........
In order for a neuron to survive, it needs to recieve input signals from presynaptic cells. Once, the neuron stops receiving input from presynaptic cells due to neuronal receptor degradation, it dies.
A person is born with as many neurons as they will ever have. Neurons in the brain and spinal cord do no regenerate themselves when damaged, which incidently explains why there is no cure for paralysis due to damage of the spinal cord. ......anyhow, the point being, once you kill a brain neuron, it doesnt grow back.
E works primarily on serotongenic neurons. The hippocampus, a brain structure that has been implicated with *learning* and *memory*, has been associated with neuronal degradation when exposed to E (because the hippocampus is innervated with a high percentage of serotongenic neurons, or neurons that primarly use serotonin as a neurotransmitter) ...... when hippocampal neuronal cells die, the cognitive functionality (learning and memory) of the hippocampus is reduced, which explains why u feel "stupid" after an E binge...
The good news is that every human brain exhibits some degree of neuronal plasticity. This means that existing neurons can compensate by carrying additional information dead or damaged neurons no longer transmit. HOWEVER, this plasticity can never compensate fully for the irreperable neuronal death caused by E. Neuronal plasticity will only slow the damage caused by X
-----Dont listen to the bullshit that X doesnt cause brain damage. It causes significant neuronal death = brain damage .
If you want to take it, mabey once a year, or once every 6 months. Dont dose more than 1-2 hits a night. MDMA and MDA and the whole methlyene-dioxy-meth- family is neurotoxic. The more u take in one sitting , the more neurotoxic it is, therefore the more neuronal damage youll cause.
Sleep tight...
bgdaddysmooth
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Not as dumb as being an everyday pot head. I've been..........uh............wait a minute. What were we talking about.
it WILL mess you up
A friend warmed me about that shit. Ten years ago he was always taking the real shit MDMA. Now he will pick up a ketchup bottle and not understand the lable, He can't read it!!!
Instead of saying 'That was a great fucking movie' he can would say 'movie fucking great a was that' completely backwards and not even notice he did it.
Scary shit, be carefully
-Hammer
A friend warmed me about that shit. Ten years ago he was always taking the real shit MDMA. Now he will pick up a ketchup bottle and not understand the lable, He can't read it!!!
Instead of saying 'That was a great fucking movie' he can would say 'movie fucking great a was that' completely backwards and not even notice he did it.
Scary shit, be carefully
-Hammer
growing painz
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I find it hard for me to take a piss sometimes. When I used to get fucked up off E I couldnt relax enough to take a piss and now I have trouble . It would get to the point (when fucked up) that I would get in the shower ( at home) and let water run on my dick so I could take a fucking piss. Now that is some frustrating shit guys but when I did get it flowing it was orgasmic.
That has happened to me when I used to do it....but only when I did in excess of 6-10 pills a night....how much do you do?....I found out that it is because when you take to much it shuts down your kidneys...mostly due to dehydration and exhaustion......try to decrease the amount you do and drink much more water.....
That has happened to me when I used to do it....but only when I did in excess of 6-10 pills a night....how much do you do?....I found out that it is because when you take to much it shuts down your kidneys...mostly due to dehydration and exhaustion......try to decrease the amount you do and drink much more water.....
