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jaytaylor84
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let's dispel this protein myth once and for all!!!
found this on another forum
"The most frequently asked question I get about Eat Stop Eat is about protein.
Typically it goes something like this:
"Brad, I'm having a lot of success with Eat Stop Eat, but I'm
wondering about my workouts. Don't I need to eat protein after my
workouts to make my muscles grow?"
It's a very good question. One that has piqued my interest enough
to figure perhaps it's time I reviewed the research and see if I can find a definitive answer.
It's a difficult topic to cover, and I have found some very
interesting research. One particular study was so interesting, I
wanted to share it with you today as an "advanced showing" of what is in my new book.
In a really interesting study published back in 1996, 43 men who
were experienced weight lifters took part in a study that involved exercise and weekly injections of testosterone enanthate for 10 weeks.
Yep, these boys were on steroids for the benefit of science!
They were divided into 4 groups.
The first group performed no exercise and didn't get any steroids.
The second group performed exercise but didn't get steroids,
The third group didn't exercise but received the weekly injections
The fourth group exercised and received the injections.
As you can imagine after 10 weeks of lifting weights 3 times per
week, the group that was receiving the steroid injections gained
over 13 pounds of muscle.
The group who were just working out (no steroids) didn't do too bad
either, packing on almost 4.5 pounds of muscle in only ten weeks.
The guys who sat around doing nothing for 10 weeks but received
the steroid injections still had an increase in lean mass (almost 6
pounds), while the group who received no steroids and didn't workout
did not see any change in their lean mass.
So what does a study on steroids have to do with nutrition? well,
all four groups were on the same diet. They were all consuming
about 0.7 grams of protein per pound of body weight and about
16 Calories per pound of body weight.
What this shows is that for a group taking steroids while
exercising, 120 grams of protein per day was enough to supply the
amount of protein needed to allow for a 13.5 pound gain in lean
mass!
It was also the same amount of protein the the exercise only group
ate to gain 4.5 pounds, and the other groups ate to see their gains,
(or lack thereof).
So for the groups who saw less gains in lean mass then the steroid
group, the amount of protein that they ate was not what determined
how much muscle they gained. The workouts (and the steroids) did
that.
Lastly, it should be noted that none of these guys took a post
workout protein meal. In other words, guys on steroids put on over
13 pounds, while guys just working out put on almost 5 pounds, all
without the supposed "essential" post workout meal.
Obviously, the steroids played a huge role in this muscle building
effect. But the important point I want to get across to you is
that the relatively normal protein intake of 120 grams per day did
not hinder the steroids muscle building effects. 120 grams was
enough protein to allow for relatively HUGE gains in muscle.
In the end, protein is important, but as this study shows, 0.7
grams of protein per pound of body weight is enough daily protein to
allow for a 13.5 pound increase in lean mass in 10 weeks. It's also
enough to allow for a 4.5 pound increase in people not taking
steroids, which is still very impressive muscle growth for a ten
week period!
For those of us who are not 'pharmaceutically enhanced' this study
helps support the idea that your workout is the most important part
of your muscle building journey.
So you can get the amazing weight loss benefits of fasting and you
can workout during your fasts, with the advantage of knowing that
even though you are may not be eating a post-workout protein meal,
your muscles are still being worked, and therefore are still going
to grow.
Get a great workout, put in a great effort, see great results, it
might just be that simple."
Lyle Mcdonald has also stated in a personal message to a member on another forum that by his guess someone who is chemically enhanced would probably receive a 25% protein synthesis enhancement.
another member on rxmuscle.com called swiper has the shittiest diet imaginable but it's unreal how much muscle he's maintained on that diet.. here is the link..
Swiper - Rx Muscle | Gymnation
brad pilon's research led to the perspective that natural trainees only need 80 -120 grams of protein.. even with lyle's guess that enhanced users receiving a 25% edge that comes out to be 150 grams of protein per day using 120g+25% of of 120
what do you guys think
found this on another forum
"The most frequently asked question I get about Eat Stop Eat is about protein.
Typically it goes something like this:
"Brad, I'm having a lot of success with Eat Stop Eat, but I'm
wondering about my workouts. Don't I need to eat protein after my
workouts to make my muscles grow?"
It's a very good question. One that has piqued my interest enough
to figure perhaps it's time I reviewed the research and see if I can find a definitive answer.
It's a difficult topic to cover, and I have found some very
interesting research. One particular study was so interesting, I
wanted to share it with you today as an "advanced showing" of what is in my new book.
In a really interesting study published back in 1996, 43 men who
were experienced weight lifters took part in a study that involved exercise and weekly injections of testosterone enanthate for 10 weeks.
Yep, these boys were on steroids for the benefit of science!
They were divided into 4 groups.
The first group performed no exercise and didn't get any steroids.
The second group performed exercise but didn't get steroids,
The third group didn't exercise but received the weekly injections
The fourth group exercised and received the injections.
As you can imagine after 10 weeks of lifting weights 3 times per
week, the group that was receiving the steroid injections gained
over 13 pounds of muscle.
The group who were just working out (no steroids) didn't do too bad
either, packing on almost 4.5 pounds of muscle in only ten weeks.
The guys who sat around doing nothing for 10 weeks but received
the steroid injections still had an increase in lean mass (almost 6
pounds), while the group who received no steroids and didn't workout
did not see any change in their lean mass.
So what does a study on steroids have to do with nutrition? well,
all four groups were on the same diet. They were all consuming
about 0.7 grams of protein per pound of body weight and about
16 Calories per pound of body weight.
What this shows is that for a group taking steroids while
exercising, 120 grams of protein per day was enough to supply the
amount of protein needed to allow for a 13.5 pound gain in lean
mass!
It was also the same amount of protein the the exercise only group
ate to gain 4.5 pounds, and the other groups ate to see their gains,
(or lack thereof).
So for the groups who saw less gains in lean mass then the steroid
group, the amount of protein that they ate was not what determined
how much muscle they gained. The workouts (and the steroids) did
that.
Lastly, it should be noted that none of these guys took a post
workout protein meal. In other words, guys on steroids put on over
13 pounds, while guys just working out put on almost 5 pounds, all
without the supposed "essential" post workout meal.
Obviously, the steroids played a huge role in this muscle building
effect. But the important point I want to get across to you is
that the relatively normal protein intake of 120 grams per day did
not hinder the steroids muscle building effects. 120 grams was
enough protein to allow for relatively HUGE gains in muscle.
In the end, protein is important, but as this study shows, 0.7
grams of protein per pound of body weight is enough daily protein to
allow for a 13.5 pound increase in lean mass in 10 weeks. It's also
enough to allow for a 4.5 pound increase in people not taking
steroids, which is still very impressive muscle growth for a ten
week period!
For those of us who are not 'pharmaceutically enhanced' this study
helps support the idea that your workout is the most important part
of your muscle building journey.
So you can get the amazing weight loss benefits of fasting and you
can workout during your fasts, with the advantage of knowing that
even though you are may not be eating a post-workout protein meal,
your muscles are still being worked, and therefore are still going
to grow.
Get a great workout, put in a great effort, see great results, it
might just be that simple."
Lyle Mcdonald has also stated in a personal message to a member on another forum that by his guess someone who is chemically enhanced would probably receive a 25% protein synthesis enhancement.
another member on rxmuscle.com called swiper has the shittiest diet imaginable but it's unreal how much muscle he's maintained on that diet.. here is the link..
Swiper - Rx Muscle | Gymnation
brad pilon's research led to the perspective that natural trainees only need 80 -120 grams of protein.. even with lyle's guess that enhanced users receiving a 25% edge that comes out to be 150 grams of protein per day using 120g+25% of of 120
what do you guys think
