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I just got back from my trip, and the first thing I did was log onto EF to look at a post started by SonnyBlack, entitled Man Ive always wondered...
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For those that want it, it is located at the below adress. Before you read it, finish reading my post.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=41564
Many people answered on how that would theoretically work. What the hell are you guys thinking? I thought this is another FAQ that should be stuck for a couple of days. Lets look at a few reasons not to go the way sonny black wants to go:
Like has been said, theoretically it ´works´for some but THIS METHOD INVITES FAILURE. Your appetite will soar, your energy levels will plunge = failure and binges. Take a high simple carb diet. Lets have sugar, and pudding for our diet. That will surely satisfy sonnys cravings. But he better brace himself for the peaks and valleys in terms of energy associated with simple carb intake. I could bare a peaks and valleys diet if I could indulge in a pizza and a pudding, but it´s not that simple. Heck, you dont even have enough water in that diet - and we all know the important role of water in muscle building, protection and repair. The above is just simply the tip of the iceberg - and damn it´s an already huge reason for me not to go Sonnys way. But, Sonny is still not convinced, and the rest are feeding him "Theoretical" bullshit. Now, the one meal a day that "theoretically works" idea is crap. NO, IT DOES NOT BOIL DOWN TO CALORIC INTAKE. A tub of ice cream, 800cals, and 2 pbj sandwiches will give you the cals you need to stay alive while ´theoretically´ burning fat. But not only will you lose minimal fat, you will lose plenty of muscle. You need more protein than the whooping 30g P a massive burger and french fries can offer - and since you are eating such crap - you wont even be able to go to the gym or do cardio considering your energy levels. With those kinds of foods you are looking at a whooping 30g of protein give or take. ESPECIALLY when you train, you need more protein than that, particularly if your goal is more than to "theoretically burn fat." To maximize muscle growth you want protein available for synthesis at all times. This is of vital importance and is why supplying protein to your body every 3 hours is essential to maximize growth. Anytime your body has to steal protein from muscle you stall and even regress the muscle growth process. The last thing you ever want is to be protein deficient when your body needs it. You can even consume more than your required amount of protein daily and still be "time-deficient" in your protein needs. This is why timing protein and nutrient intake is so important. You never want your hard earned muscle tissue to have to sacrifice protein to meet demand from other systems in your body. Protein and other macro nutrients are of prime importance, as are many other things for muscle growth/repair - -whichever your case is, you cannot overlook the importance of other factors that , like it or not, happen to come into play. It does NOT boil down to caloric intake. Repeat, it DOES NOT BOIL DOWN, and no, not even theoretically, TO CALORIC INTAKE. Not even theoretically - its bullshit. It does not ´work´. For those of you that think it ´works´have a wrong definition of what compensates your efforts in the gym.
The 5-6 meals a day theory is necessary in order to satisfy the above demands. The extra effort of getting 5-6 meals is not only worth it, but IMO NECESSARY.
In this he asked
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For those that want it, it is located at the below adress. Before you read it, finish reading my post.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=41564
Many people answered on how that would theoretically work. What the hell are you guys thinking? I thought this is another FAQ that should be stuck for a couple of days. Lets look at a few reasons not to go the way sonny black wants to go:
Like has been said, theoretically it ´works´for some but THIS METHOD INVITES FAILURE. Your appetite will soar, your energy levels will plunge = failure and binges. Take a high simple carb diet. Lets have sugar, and pudding for our diet. That will surely satisfy sonnys cravings. But he better brace himself for the peaks and valleys in terms of energy associated with simple carb intake. I could bare a peaks and valleys diet if I could indulge in a pizza and a pudding, but it´s not that simple. Heck, you dont even have enough water in that diet - and we all know the important role of water in muscle building, protection and repair. The above is just simply the tip of the iceberg - and damn it´s an already huge reason for me not to go Sonnys way. But, Sonny is still not convinced, and the rest are feeding him "Theoretical" bullshit. Now, the one meal a day that "theoretically works" idea is crap. NO, IT DOES NOT BOIL DOWN TO CALORIC INTAKE. A tub of ice cream, 800cals, and 2 pbj sandwiches will give you the cals you need to stay alive while ´theoretically´ burning fat. But not only will you lose minimal fat, you will lose plenty of muscle. You need more protein than the whooping 30g P a massive burger and french fries can offer - and since you are eating such crap - you wont even be able to go to the gym or do cardio considering your energy levels. With those kinds of foods you are looking at a whooping 30g of protein give or take. ESPECIALLY when you train, you need more protein than that, particularly if your goal is more than to "theoretically burn fat." To maximize muscle growth you want protein available for synthesis at all times. This is of vital importance and is why supplying protein to your body every 3 hours is essential to maximize growth. Anytime your body has to steal protein from muscle you stall and even regress the muscle growth process. The last thing you ever want is to be protein deficient when your body needs it. You can even consume more than your required amount of protein daily and still be "time-deficient" in your protein needs. This is why timing protein and nutrient intake is so important. You never want your hard earned muscle tissue to have to sacrifice protein to meet demand from other systems in your body. Protein and other macro nutrients are of prime importance, as are many other things for muscle growth/repair - -whichever your case is, you cannot overlook the importance of other factors that , like it or not, happen to come into play. It does NOT boil down to caloric intake. Repeat, it DOES NOT BOIL DOWN, and no, not even theoretically, TO CALORIC INTAKE. Not even theoretically - its bullshit. It does not ´work´. For those of you that think it ´works´have a wrong definition of what compensates your efforts in the gym.
The 5-6 meals a day theory is necessary in order to satisfy the above demands. The extra effort of getting 5-6 meals is not only worth it, but IMO NECESSARY.
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