Ketogenic Diets

[halcyon]

What do you guys think of ketogenic diets? I started one about 5 days ago and i've lost 6 pounds but only dropped 1% of bodyfat. I think I'm losing too much muscle. Anyone else have experience with this type of diet?

 

[Mr.X]

The Ketonic Diet works great for cutting up. If you have been in DEEP ketosis for 5 days, you need to start a carb up for 2 days or you'll end up loosing muscle. <BR>
--carb up---<BR>
do a full body workout, i.e. all body parts 4-5 times in a circuit...<BR> then immediately (1st 24hours) have high glycemic carbs... usually sugar cereal and Fat-FREE milk (have no fats)/ or rice cakes
have about 35-45 carbs every 2 hours<BR>
then 2nd 24hours have lower glycemic carbs<BR>like pasta.. after your last meal of carbs... wait 1 hr, then have an apple in order to spike your insulin and help you back into ketosis<BR> (unless you know how to use insulin, DON'T USE IT IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW...Humalin R will get you into ketosis in 3-12hours if properly administered, if done wrong you can die)<BR>
---get Ketosix strips if you haven't yet, they are very necessary for a Ketonic diet--<BR> if you have questions about Insulin post<BR>
My 2cents<BR>
Mr.X

 

[MR. BMJ]

Losing 6 pounds is not uncommon when first starting a keto diet or when following a wekend carb-up. When I do a 48 hour carb-up, I will gain up to 15 pounds of water and glycogen (and hopefully not too much fat). Then by Tuesday and Wednesday, I pretty much lose all of it and am pretty much depleted. 1-2 pounds of fat loss per week is not too bad, so I wouldn't worry about it. To reduce the amount of water and fat gain over a weekend carb-up, I usually cut back to a 24-30 hour carb-up instead of the 48.
MR. BMJ

 

[Yll]

Ya I been on it for 2 weeks.I think i overdid it on calories though.Didnt seem like i lost much fat.Im goin to decrease my calorie intake maybe 500-700 below maintanence.Hopefully i dont lose no muscle.What kind of intake do you guys use as far as calories?

 

[Mr.X]

usually I use the following formula:<BR>
your weight x 12= amount of calories needed<BR>
then in about 2 weeks you can change the 12 to 11 but the lowest is 10.... so if you're 200lb .. you start w/ 2400 calories and go no lower then 2000
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My 2 cents<BR>
Mr.X

 

[Yll]

What weeks do you get the best results on Keto.Is it later in the diet.It seems to me like the first two weeks are working slowly.

 

[Mr.X]

if natural it takes 2-3 days to get into ketosis so it seems like a while, but fat loss (for me at least) increases as you go longer and longer on the diet
It has to do w/ the bodies ability to burn fat more and more efficiently
My 2cents
Mr.X

 

[LetsGoMurphys]

as far as a carb up is concerned do you do that the first week or do you stay in ketosis for some time?

 

[Millie]

Wow, resurrecting a 3-year old thread?

As far as the carb-up, it depends on your weight, your fitness level, have you done keto diets before.
Basically, if you are just starting out and have quite a bit of weight to lose, then you can wait and do the first carb-up after 10-14 days of being in ketosis.