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Should I go on accutane? -sorta long post

DStockholm

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Ok, I am considering going on accutane because I am fucking sick and tired of dealing with this acne. It just got bad this summer and has left me with minor scaring (nothing deep, just red marks) and am never clear. I never have been since high school, it seems there was always 3 or 4 active pimples somewhere on my face. Up untill this summer I experienced very mild acne, now I consider my acne generoulsy moderate or the worst its ever been in my life. I have tired almost every fucking antibotic (minocycline, tetracycline, eurythomycin - currently taking) and topical gel/cream, cleocin, benzo...I stopped the mino because its stopped working and i had very bad joint pains. The topicals seem to do nothing.

Right now I have been getting microdermabrassion/chemical peel combo and have had it done twice and am planning on going 5 more times. They are 10 days apart and i think that may help a little bit with the mild scaring and that but i don't think it will stop my acne from coming back. These could help...

What I want is to never to have to deal with this shit again. EVER, im 21 and i don't want to have this problem untill im fucking 30 or older. I have never considered accutane untill now because i thought I could get rid of my mild acne with out it. And the sides sound bad and discourage me. Right now im fed up with dealing with it and am about ready to get on it asap. N

I have done a great deal of searching and found some usefull information on it on the boards and now am trying to decide what to do.

I think a smaller dose (20mg/day?) would do it because my acne is no where near severe. Also i could avoid some sides??? I have never had nasty cysts or anything like that. Nothing else seems to work and all i want is clear skin. My doc would perscribe so i just need to make the decision. Nothing else seems to work and its begining to fuck with my self esteem. I am not on any gear as well/ never have (reason being im afraid of more acne from it), so im not sure if that is an issue, i know that some people said it comes back after a cycle even after accutane.

So is it worth it?
Is it a decent long time cure?
What would you do?



Thanks for any replys/suggestions/experiences guys. I'm sure you know how stressfull it is.

Dwight
 
Accutane was one of the best things i have ever done. I had the same type of acne you had, not that bad but iwas just fucking SICK of it. Did accutane and i'v enever looked back. It smoothed out my skin nice.

Its worth the cycle.. Might as well take advantage of it and do a nasty cycle.. just don'e do anything thats liver harmful.
 
I get all of these little bumps - but then I started getting big nasty acne, which I never had until I came off of gear.
I started 2g of B-5 a day and it went away in a week - and I'm going to stay on that now. I'm also on 1mg of liquidex a day as well, and saw palmetto too.

the little bumps are still there and I don't know what to do about them - but the big nasty stuff that would scar went all away.

so you might want to give that a shot.
 
All about Acne and Accutane - From someone that has been there and done it.

I am re-posting something I wrote a while back. Some new notes are at the end.

Positive Karma is appreciated. Thanks guys.

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I hear a lot being said about Accutane on this board and I think there is a lot of misconceptions about it. So, since I have personal experience with it, I will provide some insight.

Accutane is not some mild remedy for acne. This is not something where you will see Jennifer Love Hewitt bouncing her rack around in a TV ad touting it. It can be some serious shit.

I am not a Doc, so if the terms are not 100% correct, no big deal.

I had a mild to moderate acne problem when I was younger. After years of washes, tetracycline, and other BS, I finally heard about Accutane. My Doc was not agreeable with this as a course of treatment, since it is usually used for only extreme cases. Finally, I told him that I WAS going to do it, with or without his help. I told him flat-out that I would even find my own dermatologist, and pay for it out of my own pocket if he (MY Doc) would not approve it for insurance. Finally, he knuckled under and agreed.

I was referred to a Derma(tologist) and we started.

Accutane is basically a synthetic form, of something very similar, to Vitamin A. It is very powerful.

There is a long list of possible side effects. For women, it is especially risky - if she gets pregnant while on it, the possible birth defects are scary (very). They will NOT provide Accutane to women unless she get’s a pregnancy test first, and agrees to be on 2 forms of contraceptives during the administration of Accutane.

But I am not a chick, so this was not an issue.

One of the possible side effects is a raising of your cholesterol. So, typically, a full Chol(lesterol) test is done prior to giving you Accutane as a baseline.

The dose of Accutane given varies depending upon your size, and the severity of your acne. Typically it is taken for about 4-5 months in one stretch. If you stop early, you will have some benefit, but it will be less. Why would you stop early? Most docs WILL require that your Chol levels be checked, and depending on the Doc, they may stop the use of it. That happened to me (more details later).

The way it works is, you take Accutane for your 4-5 months, then you are done. Then, your acne problems are WAY less. Now, its not the holy grail, it's not prefect. In fact, what is interesting is that it tends to be MOST effective on very very serve cases of acne (the cystic type). Milder acne cases tend to have less benefit, but there will be some.

The benefits do last a long long time, but are not forever. I noticed that after a few years, my acne did come back a bit, but much less than it was.

Before you start, there are several things they warn you about:

You cholesterol may go up. WAY up.

You will be very very sensitive to the sun.

Your skin will get dry. Very.

You will HAVE to drink a LOT of water.

Your acne will get worse (temporarily) before it gets better.

You must NOT take Vitamin A supplements while on it. This will act synergistically with the Accutane - and your sides will get worse.

With that all understood, I started.

No big deal for a week. Then, your skin starts getting dry, and your acne gets worse.

Now my worsening was not ALL that bad. I washed a lot, and was careful, so it got mildly worse. But still, it WILL get worse for a while. But that was not a bog deal with me.

OK, this is where it gets bad. My skin got dry. Very.

Ok, now I know that these AS sites have all of us Test-laden MoFo's and we are used to some amount of pain. So, most guys, when hearing about something like dry skin, just go "oh .. whatever, no big deal".

TRUST ME.

THIS IS NO PICNIC.

Dry. Like you will not believe. A faint white sheen from dry flakiness in certain areas.

Your lips so dry, that they crack. Crack. And bleed.

Imagine opening your mouth enough to eat a big burger and your lips crack and bleed. Ouch.

Now, I had heard about this prior, and was (probably like most guys reading this) going "yeah right - no big deal", so I was not drinking as much water, and not using a moisturizer that much. And after about a week into it, I figured "this ain’t too bad". Plus, since you acne gets worse for a while, that LAST thing you think of is potting moisturizer on your skin.

So, I was cruising along, acne got a bit worse, then within a few days, the dryness kicks in. THEN YOU START DRINKING WATER. LOL (duh).

I quickly learned the ropes about this...

Drink a TON of water. Then drink more. It helps.

Have a moisturizer with you ALL THE TIME. I went and got like a small purse-size one that chick’s use, and had it in my pocket ALL THE TIME. I had to apply it like 4 times during a work day to prevent getting this like "white" look on the surface of my skin, due to the layer of dry skin at the surface.

Have a lip balm with you ALL THE TIME. ALL FREEGIN DAY. Chap stick (regular) sucks. Its like wax and basically forms a layer to KEEP existing moisture IN. That won’t help. You need either Chap Stick Medicated (its almost like Vaseline) or Blistex. Blistex, is in a small tube, and its like a white cream - is THE best. I had tubes everywhere. In the car, at home, in my desk, in my pocket, in my jacket, You will need it.

Trust me.

So, my skin got dry, I learned how to manage it.

I went along for about 2.5 months, almost 3. Then my Chol tests came back (I had to get one like every 3-4 weeks, most Docs will insist upon this while on). My test showed that my Chol went WAY up.

Now this is what sucked for me. My Derma was this old dude who panicked, and made me STOP the Accutane. That sucked. I was young, healthy, etc., and frankly a temporary rise in Chol is not a big deal, but he stopped it. Damn.

So, that was cycle 1. It helped.

But, after like 18-24 months, my acne sorta came back. Damn.

So I went to my regular Doc, and told him I wanted to go for it again, He agreed.

So, we got a new set of Chol tests, and started.

I was smart this time.

To minimize the temporary worsening, I was sure to wash very well, and use some good topicals when I started. That helped. The "worsening" was minimal.

I started drinking TON of water from day 1. That helped a lot.

Sure enough, the dry skin started, albeit much less than before. I was prepared. At about say 7-10 I started to moisturize, preemptively. That helped.

I was armed with Blistex everywhere. I knew the drill. Blistex and a pocket-sized thing of moisturizer. Worked like a charm.

We watched my Chol levels. I was smart this time. I started working out then to keep the Chol levels down. I ate very well. I took Metamucil to keep my system moving. Lots of bran too. It all helped. My Chol went up, but not too much. We knew that it would drop after the Accutane was halted.

So, I finished that course about 6 years ago.

Since then my acne has been much much less than it ever was. In the past year or 2, it has come back a tiny bit, but its manageable.

So, there it is. Accutane.

It is good, but it is a bit harsh. I know it has other possible effects (on organs, maybe liver, kidneys, I dunno) but for me that was not a problem.

Trust me, learn from my advice. Don’t be a Test-laden bull-headed dumbass and blow off what I sad about the dry skin and lips. This will be the WORSE you have EVER experienced that in your life. But, if you drink a TON of water, moisturize, and get some good lip-stuff, you can deal with it.


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OK - some new notes.


Not everyone gets skin quite that dry. True. However I think part of the reason for this is the mis-information of many out people out there, where they use far too little of a dose (like 20mg/day). I cant recall what I did - but it was more than that for sure.


Plus - BB'rs tend tp be used to drinking massivbe amounts of water - that helps a lot.


If using it while ON, I would suggest that its all the more imprtant to have your Cholesterol checked during the AS and Acc. cycles, and maybe even have your liver functions checked as well (especially if doing some of the oral AS's which tend to be a bit stressful on the liver).

If you live in a warm area, and/or if you plan on tanning, getting some sun, etc. - forget doing Accutane at the same time. You get very sensitive to the sun. Very. Add that fact to the skin-drying effect - and getting even the slightest sunburn (or even enough to normally color you a bit) will NOT be fun. Yes, you CAN go outside and be IN the sun, but you will need like SPF 2000 to keep it tolerable.

Again, some of the things such as symptoms, side effects, etc. are experinced to various degrees by different people, but everyone considering Accutane should at least be aware that they have a goo chance of having such things happen to them.
 
Accutane should be a last resort, why take something so harsh on your body/liver etc. My wife used to have really bad cystic acne all over her neck,back, and face. Even worse were the scars all over her back( she has like no pain receptors it seems).She tried everything with no results, she was ready to try Accutane.
Anyway, I asked her to try 5 grams of B-5 everyday for a month and if she didn't get the results she wanted I'd get her accutane. Well she did that an dnow take 1gram of B-5 as maintenance and 99% of the acne is long gone. Sometimes she gets a clogged pore, but the cystic acne has never come back even when she skips the B-5 for a month or two. Give it a shot for 4 weeks, you can lose.
I take 2 grams a day and have almost no acne, just like irritated pores sometimes.
 
Hey bro, I was in the same boat as you... I tried every single time of antibiotic, topical cream, B-5, they all did nothing for my acne. It wasn't that serious until I came off my second cycle. After the clomid it got too bad on my back and shoulders to handle anymore. The doc perscribed me 40mg a day of accutane. It's been a little over a month now since I started and the sides aren't as bad as a lot of people make them out to be. Two big things that will help you if you decide to go on accutane... 1. DRINK LOTS OF WATER. 2. DONT USE CHAPSTICK, GET SOME AQUAPHOR. Your lips get so chapped by the 3rd week you can't handle it, or at least so I've heard... I've been using aquaphor whenever I am at home (cant use it at school or work because its messy), and I use blistex when I'm out. Also, 20mg a day I don't think will get rid of the acne. Usually they start you out on 1 pill a day (40mg) and after a couple months, they bump you up to two pills a day (80mg).If you have any other questions you can email me.
 
I am currently on 80 mgs of accutane per day. The first week or two my skin got oily and broke out nasty as shit. But today about a month later I am moisturizing 3-4 times per day and putting AQUAPHOR on my lips every 10 minutes. I don't use any topicals but I was my face with CETAPHIL which helps out ALOT. My acne has gotten incredibly better and the sides are well worth the benefits. Just don't elt yor lips dry out too much- you'll regret it!!!
 
I had a similar problem, always 1 or 2 active zits on my face. And then I did a little sust cycle, and I got terrible acne on my back that didn't go away until I started Accutante almost a year later.

I've been on Accutane since August, and the main things I've noticed is:
-Chap fucking lips, if you don't Balm every couple of hours you will peel like crazy.
-Tanning doesn't exactly work, I just get red.

So what has it done:
-Cleared up my face, and I don't get zits on my neck after shaving like I used to.
-Cleared up my back of any of the big suckers, but there was still some red marks. (Even now that I'm on 500mg/Sust a week, I've only had one break out and it was three zits that went away with polysporin)

As for my blood work, all my levels were in check (I had super low Cholesterol), and after a month barely anything was raised. (My cue to jump on some Sust)

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