Here's my take pn the whole Ryan Moats incident

[miplank]

Yeah,

What I would've done was get on my cellphone and call 911 and tell them why I wasn't pulling over. Atleast then dispatch could have given the officer a heads up to why they weren't stopping. Hell, maybe the could have gotten a police escort.

 

[needtogetarmy]

I feel like we, as human beings, tend to get caught up in the emotions rather than logic (shocking!). And that's what I see in this case. First off all, it makes a great media story because the mother in law actually died during the incident. If she didn't die, if the media didn't have the whole "while the police officer detained Moats his mother in law WAS DYING" angle, the story would be less attractive and would not have received as much play as it has. That's point #1.

Point #2 is that the dude, regardless of why, ran a red light and the continued to run from the police after they attempted to pull him over. Game over. That's all you need right there. Once again, the why does not matter at this point in the story.

Apparently the cop drew his gun (but didn't point it at them) when Moats and his wife got out of the car outside the hospital, which seems a bit excessive to me, but I suppose that's policy and I understand that. These guys need to protect themselves, especially from people that run from the cops. And the police issued a statement that the cop should have shown more "common sense" when Moats kept telling him the reson for his running the red light. I guess I agree with that - at some point, the cop could have gone inside the hospital with the Moats and confirmed all this. But then again, I'm sure cops get lied to CONSTANTLY. And I would hope that if Moats pulled over in the first place and explained the story, the cop would have been more sensitive to it.

Anyway, that's my take. Shitty situation, but it's a homerun type story for the media and most people see "cop detains black dude while his mother dies" and boom, judgment has been passed and cemented.

+1

Dial Tone needs to read this lol

K for an excellent, well thought out thread.

 

[Dial_tone]

I feel like we, as human beings, tend to get caught up in the emotions rather than logic (shocking!). And that's what I see in this case. First off all, it makes a great media story because the mother in law actually died during the incident. If she didn't die, if the media didn't have the whole "while the police officer detained Moats his mother in law WAS DYING" angle, the story would be less attractive and would not have received as much play as it has. That's point #1.

Point #2 is that the dude, regardless of why, ran a red light and the continued to run from the police after they attempted to pull him over. Game over. That's all you need right there. Once again, the why does not matter at this point in the story.

Apparently the cop drew his gun (but didn't point it at them) when Moats and his wife got out of the car outside the hospital, which seems a bit excessive to me, but I suppose that's policy and I understand that. These guys need to protect themselves, especially from people that run from the cops. And the police issued a statement that the cop should have shown more "common sense" when Moats kept telling him the reson for his running the red light. I guess I agree with that - at some point, the cop could have gone inside the hospital with the Moats and confirmed all this. But then again, I'm sure cops get lied to CONSTANTLY. And I would hope that if Moats pulled over in the first place and explained the story, the cop would have been more sensitive to it.

Anyway, that's my take. Shitty situation, but it's a homerun type story for the media and most people see "cop detains black dude while his mother dies" and boom, judgment has been passed and cemented.

Did we really need a whole new thread just for your response, Mr. Pope of Greenwich Village?

I totally agree with you on all points. My response to the whole thing was just "unfortunate".

Also, if Moats was some burger flipper from Detroit, none of this would have been publicized.

FUCK YOU!........................................no really. I want to fuck you.

 

[Strongbow]

Yeah,

What I would've done was get on my cellphone and call 911 and tell them why I wasn't pulling over. Atleast then dispatch could have given the officer a heads up to why they weren't stopping. Hell, maybe the could have gotten a police escort.

Thats what I was thinking, you know somebody in the car had a cell phone.

 

[KillahBee]

Did we really need a whole new thread just for your response, Mr. Pope of Greenwich Village?

lol, didn't see another thread. regardless, I deserve my own attention, pigtits.

 

[hurricane]

the police department he works for has him on suspension.. and admitted it was wrong what he did and all but said they are embarassed ..

disgracful event !!!FUCK THE POLICE

 

[stosstruppe]

the police department he works for has him on suspension.. and admitted it was wrong what he did and all but said they are embarassed ..

disgracful event !!!FUCK THE POLICE

I would have promoted the officer personally & pinned a medal on his chest.

 

[samoth]

Did we really need a whole new thread just for your response, Mr. Pope of Greenwich Village?

I was going to make a thread titled, "My take on KB's take on the whole Ryan Moats incident", but I don't really care that much to argue yet another news story sensationalism.

Pants.

 

[KillahBee]

the police department he works for has him on suspension.. and admitted it was wrong what he did and all but said they are embarassed ..

disgracful event !!!FUCK THE POLICE

media sheep baaaaaaaaaa

 

[Dial_tone]

+1

Dial Tone needs to read this lol

K for an excellent, well thought out thread.

1. Details do matter. You can make the case any story is more or less of a story because of certain details. Example, dude is found dead at the bottom of a cliff...so what. He probably fell. Suppose dude is found dead at the bottom of a cliff and his wife was seen smiling walking back to the car. Kinda changes things, doesn't it? The devil is in the details.

2. When the cop tells Ryan again to go get his insurance Ryan walks around to the far side of a darkened vehicle. Not only does the officer not follow to keep him in sight, he actually turns his back to talk on the radio. Those are not the actions of a cop who is worried something is gonna go down. We can talk all day about how dangerous a cop's job is but this is a cop who is 100% in control of the situation. Why not give the guy the benefit of the doubt?

3. The CNN video is titled "Cop halts visit to dying in-law", not "cop detains black dude while his mother dies". I don't need this to be a racial thing to make it newsworthy. I post my thread even if the guy pulls over Jason Witten.

That is my excellent, well thought out response...which I hope YOU read.