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This is an Ariel Inspired Thread

Lol. Poor Shrimpy.
Yea, that was nate posting under my name after I had a bunch of wine.

LOL


Let's Analyze Trenbolone 100mg ED Style and show no restraint, as is my tendency... big sigh...

Eliot had a mind that is atleast 100 times more potent than mine. Mine is feeble and scattered compared to that Imaginative Sage, however...

A Wild bird?

I guess it depends on the definition he means as Wild.
In his context I think he was using this definition.
Courtesy of Google Dictionary

Definitions of wild on the Web:
in a natural state; not tamed or domesticated or cultivated; "wild geese"; "edible wild plants"


I guess when I read it, considering the context of our times and the way the change from the Pre World War 2 generation that valued hard work, making an effort, as more important than making a ton of money. Degrees again, being successful was still the prime imperative, but the culture was still less secular and more influenced by the Christian Values of Hard Work leads to Integrity. Moreover it viewed the body as a vehicle that should be transcended, the body was used as a vehicle to purify itself through a strong character. It was not an object of adornment.

However now, post industrial, Wireless age of Technology, the Body has become a vehicle to beautify and achieve the aesthetic perfection. Appearance becomes the prime imperative. Being Beautiful through Appearance becomes the Underlying Music Moving through our Culture.

As a result Self Indulgence, How to experience the most Pleasure one can through the body becomes a significant norm or value -if you wanna call it that-
and What 'matters' now is matter, specifically Appearance, Pleasure, Commodities. The bad side... why even bother.

Anyway, this is the definition I get out of this context of 'our time'.
marked by extreme lack of restraint or control;

Also a loss of meaning, literally and metaphorically...
baseless: without a basis in reason or fact; "baseless gossip"; "the allegations proved groundless"; "idle fears"; "unfounded suspicions"; "unwarranted jealousy

Then I thought, wait, A bird is not wild. To Fly metaphorically signifies FREEDOM,
to be Free means, to show self control, restraint. That is the core teaching of all estoeric wisdom. To transcend the limitations of impulse/sensation/ignorance,
through self control. It is loss of self control and living INXS, that throws one in Error and more Deficiency, More Suffering.

Finally, I thought. Stupid Poem.


So that said, yeah I thought it was weird you hoisted that one up.

It seemed out of context.

I don't think Nate is Wild.
raving mad: talking or behaving irrationally; "a raving lunatic"

I think me taking this convo this far is Wild...LOL
fantastic: fanciful and unrealistic; foolish; "a fantastic idea of his own importance
rampantly: in an uncontrolled and rampant manner; "weeds grew rampantly around here"



That's good enough for me.
 
LOL


Let's Analyze Trenbolone 100mg ED Style and show no restraint, as is my tendency... big sigh...

Eliot had a mind that is atleast 100 times more potent than mine. Mine is feeble and scattered compared to that Imaginative Sage, however...

A Wild bird?

I guess it depends on the definition he means as Wild.
In his context I think he was using this definition.
Courtesy of Google Dictionary

Definitions of wild on the Web:
in a natural state; not tamed or domesticated or cultivated; "wild geese"; "edible wild plants"


I guess when I read it, considering the context of our times and the way the change from the Pre World War 2 generation that valued hard work, making an effort, as more important than making a ton of money. Degrees again, being successful was still the prime imperative, but the culture was still less secular and more influenced by the Christian Values of Hard Work leads to Integrity. Moreover it viewed the body as a vehicle that should be transcended, the body was used as a vehicle to purify itself through a strong character. It was not an object of adornment.

However now, post industrial, Wireless age of Technology, the Body has become a vehicle to beautify and achieve the aesthetic perfection. Appearance becomes the prime imperative. Being Beautiful through Appearance becomes the Underlying Music Moving through our Culture.

As a result Self Indulgence, How to experience the most Pleasure one can through the body becomes a significant norm or value -if you wanna call it that-
and What 'matters' now is matter, specifically Appearance, Pleasure, Commodities. The bad side... why even bother.

Anyway, this is the definition I get out of this context of 'our time'.
marked by extreme lack of restraint or control;

Also a loss of meaning, literally and metaphorically...
baseless: without a basis in reason or fact; "baseless gossip"; "the allegations proved groundless"; "idle fears"; "unfounded suspicions"; "unwarranted jealousy

Then I thought, wait, A bird is not wild. To Fly metaphorically signifies FREEDOM,
to be Free means, to show self control, restraint. That is the core teaching of all estoeric wisdom. To transcend the limitations of impulse/sensation/ignorance,
through self control. It is loss of self control and living INXS, that throws one in Error and more Deficiency, More Suffering.

Finally, I thought. Stupid Poem.


So that said, yeah I thought it was weird you hoisted that one up.

It seemed out of context.

I don't think Nate is Wild.
raving mad: talking or behaving irrationally; "a raving lunatic"

I think me taking this convo this far is Wild...LOL
fantastic: fanciful and unrealistic; foolish; "a fantastic idea of his own importance
rampantly: in an uncontrolled and rampant manner; "weeds grew rampantly around here"



That's good enough for me.

Lol. U just reminded me of the bar scene in Good Will Hunting.

 
Lol. U just reminded me of the bar scene in Good Will Hunting.


LOL

I loved that part.
I was like holy shit.
I mean first of all, that dude was way, way, way pretentious.
I"m bad, but shit, I would neva do that... cause well, fuck man, simple dude's got way more game than loud mouths...

From Creighton, Navy, even JFK.. it's the peeps that keep it simple, cause wel they just 'know'.
Not the dudes who pontificate all the time.
LOL... ooops.

Yeah... Ummm,....those guys are fags.
 
LOL

I loved that part.
I was like holy shit.
I mean first of all, that dude was way, way, way pretentious.
I"m bad, but shit, I would neva do that... cause well, fuck man, simple dude's got way more game than loud mouths...

From Creighton, Navy, even JFK.. it's the peeps that keep it simple, cause wel they just 'know'.
Not the dudes who pontificate all the time.
LOL... ooops.

Yeah... Ummm,....those guys are fags.

Lol. I would ONLY call him pretentious ...... if he wasn't so correct, yet, needing to blend with simple people. This is one of my favorite parts....

 
LMAO! Leave it to Ariel! Good to see Ariel is still the same

Hey I know you gave it to me already, but I"m too lazy to go check.

PM me your birth name
As much as you are comfortable with, and I'll hoist you up, I just finished puddlemonkey, and working on Thandie's 'birth name,' but the more names you give me the more accurate the 'reading'

It takes me like 45 to 1 hour for each name, but I'll hoist it up.
You have to read the thread to get an idea of what it does.

You were the first to really welcome me here, and so, yeah..
it would be fun to do.
 
LOL
Sorry, Java, I'm finishing your tripartie tractate comic book thread in the morning.
I will hit this up, it's really kewl, cause well it has to do with religion as well.

After I finish in the morning your tale, I will hit this up. It's fresh in my mind.
I will say this, your instincts that are telling you Restraint. Well, stay true to them.

You are next in the name thread. What interests me is if there is a complementary relationship between Brian and Java Guru. So far, on break, my little project of that thread has indicated that for the most part there a pattern that of behind naming/identity/expression, of whatever is lacking in the birth name, the online name makes up for.

So much that is subconscious, and escapes our view.
Lemme work on that for an hour and I'll hoist it up.

I'm not letting you off the hok. :)
 
See post 32.

Same message in your father's time, which was post industrial, the World War 2 generation was still infused with Christian Values of Hard work being a fundamental value in the cultural imperative. Now the decrease in this was not linear, but consisted of tipping points of little increments of build, up, then boom, exploding through culture in a short amount of time. I suspect a tipping point was tipped recently with demonization of steroids, because it has only been a year since I wrote a post so infused with passion about the media demonizing steroid use as a distraction from what counts, and now it's only been a year, steroid use seems much more acceptable, and less meatheadish, as appearance continues to take on more and more ground as something in the norm to pursue, and less 'shallow'.

The nature of change is following Moores law, the intel genius who established that every 2 years a processors can be made at 1/2 size but twice as powerful. It is an S curve. The nature of Change is moving culture through exponential rates of shifts in what is acceptable, what is kewl, what is to be feared. The proliferation of data, that our current form of knowledge which is based on establishing through separation, the 'is' and 'is not' of knowledge, leads to knowledge proliferating the atmosphere with data. In order to operate a phone, one must become an IT specialist. I know more about my cell phone than I do myself... no joke. This form of knowledge, in accord with commoditization of everything place an emphasis on 'matter' . What matters now, is not value, but what is valued more now is matter. Matter as appearance. It no longer has any value of what principles guide your life, if you are in the teen demograph, or to a degree the predominant population in culture, however but how you appear, and what brands you shop. Identity through Brand.

Anyway, no surprise there, that's old news, however, what is interesting is that, the world war 2 generation which was 71% actively church going folks, compared to the 41% of baby boomers, now around 13% of general population, well this generation's culture in that time and space saw the body as something not to be adorned. It was not a vehicle to chisel, to beautify, to experience immediate gratification through. Rather, it was kinda understood as a vehicle to get a job done, and the imperative was more on making an effort through hard work. The imperative was more on principle and less on aesthetic beauty and the perfection of the body as one of the core imperatives running our culture.

It just seems to me, that now, in which technological knowledge is the basis of our understanding ourselves and the world, one of the byproducts is that restraint, meaning, and good will take a back seat due to the fact that that this form of knowledge is all based on individual self. It is a form of knowledge that is based on separation and classification. 'Object ive knowledge is seen as the only valid knowledge, what is 'subject' ive, or interpretation is seen as meaningless, thus what comes up for public discussion and education is not how to live your life, or critically think, or be aware, but how to obtain a the cost of others.

Yeah, continue to follow your instincts on restraint, and things will get better. I notice in my world of academia a tipping point has been switched and there is a movement to undo the knots that have been created. Moreover, I notice it's all around me. People I meet are instinctually just kinda, in their own way, waking up. Degrees, but I'm much less cynical about things, say then 2 years ago.


Our understanding of self must change, our understanding of time, our understanding that Knowledge is capacity to live your life, not the content of what you know. We will come to understand that Truth cannot be based on agreement, what was true today, may not be true tomorrow, truth is a ratio, the correct interval between work, play, worship, and sacrifice. When we understand that there aren't really problems, only ratio's that need to be corrected, then the ego will be less domineering and we will all be less psychotic.

It's happening all around us. Just not near at the speed it's gotta be at.
 
My father hated going to church, and set his foot down with my mother when our pastor crossed the line with his dogma and made some ridiculous criticisms of parishioners. He was brilliant in his own way, he had no more than a high school education but he was a mechanical genius by all his coworkers' accounts. He never had my breadth of knowledge or the luxury of a formal education, the only reason I'm as educated as I am is because of him. Like most, he overvalued education versus natural ability and experience.
 
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