For the Ones with experience -Body Fat Loss- Supplements??

[bblazer]

7 keto is nothing at all like DHEA. It's non hormonal and directly effects fat loss through thyroid activation, yet is not a stimulant.

You are right (I wasn't very clear in my original comment). 7-keto is actually a metabolite of DHEA.

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From the University of Illinois:

Potential Benefits of 7-KETO DHEA
According to Henry Lardy, PhD, of the National Academy of Sciences, 7-KETO DHEA offers the potential benefits of DHEA without the risks. 7-KETO DHEA is a natural metabolite, also called conversion product, of DHEA. Once DHEA is converted to the 7-KETO form it can no longer be used to make the sex hormones that present cancer risks.

In preliminary studies on animals, 7-Keto DHEA stimulates the immune system, prevents muscle loss (anti-catabolic), reduces stress, increases the calorie-burning rate by activating thermogenic liver enzymes and improves memory more than DHEA or a placebo. Monkeys infected with the simian version of HIV displayed weight gain, a five-fold increase in T-cell counts and improvement in overall behavior and clinical condition.

Is 7-KETO DHEA safe?
Short and long-term safety studies show 7-KETO DHEA is not mutagenic. That means it has not damaged the DNA in rats and monkeys, and it has no other adverse effects, even at milligram/body weight doses up to 70 times the recommended dose for humans, which is 50 mg a day.

One 28-day human safety trial has been completed. It confirmed that 7-KETO DHEA does not raise levels of sex or other hormones or affect blood and urine chemistry, at doses of up to 200 mg per day. It cannot convert to estrogens or testosterone, so it cannot promote prostate enlargement or cancer, breast tumors and other sex hormone effects that may occur with DHEA supplementation.

 

[jock52]

DJLegacy is the specialist on the ECA / LIPOFLAME 2 week on / OFF split

I have not used ECA in years but his ideas make sense for sure.

To tap into the results of both, avoid downregulation of Thyroid, and also the Stimulation "feel"

Great, going to be picking me up some then. Might have a few orders coming your way OMEGA... been telling a lot of guys on my boat about your wonder suppliments

 

[dbcooper]

Ok i have been reading about lipoflame and some other Fat Loss supplements here on the Elite and i would love to have some recomendations from those with experience using the stuff.

What would you recomend to use for lossing belly fat along with weight training? Also im very sensitive to supplements like Xenadrine (when Ephedra was the main active ingridient) that kind gives me the shakes and i get very nervous.

ECA for sure

 

[AztecWarrior]

Look into non-stim fat burners, appitite suppresents, and have your diet down to a key.

 

[AztecWarrior]

You might want to look into albuterol in liquid form. It's less harder on the CNS and has good fat burning effect.

 

[fenix777]

Im back can we update which supps i should use to help me lose middle body fat (love handles).

 

[NOS2.0]

In an ECA stack, would replacing the asprin with Green tea extract be a good idea?
Green tea extract is a natural fat mobilizer as well as a natural blood thinner.
E 16mg
C 200mg
G 600mg

 

[DeathMetal]

Running 2-week cycles as follows, and f00king METLING fat off. Cycle can be ran for 8 weeks assuming you're taking Benadryl.

CYCLE 1
24mg E
200mg C
200mg A
1 pill Alpha T-2
TWICE DAILY

CYCLE 2
40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/100/100 mcg Clen
5g Taurine
3g Potassium
1 pill Alpha T-2 twice daily


THROUGHOUT CYCLE
2 tabs Benadryl before bed (can't recommend this enough)
4mL Synthetine

...and I'm carb cycling. Losing about 1.5-3lbs WEEKLY for the past 5 weeks

 

[DeathMetal]

In an ECA stack, would replacing the asprin with Green tea extract be a good idea?
Green tea extract is a natural fat mobilizer as well as a natural blood thinner.
E 16mg
C 200mg
G 600mg

If anything, substitute the G for Yohmibe...but I don't even recommend that; yohimbe taken in too large amount really spikes the BP.

 

[fenix777]

Running 2-week cycles as follows, and f00king METLING fat off. Cycle can be ran for 8 weeks assuming you're taking Benadryl.

CYCLE 1
24mg E
200mg C
200mg A
1 pill Alpha T-2
TWICE DAILY

CYCLE 2
40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/100/100 mcg Clen
5g Taurine
3g Potassium
1 pill Alpha T-2 twice daily


THROUGHOUT CYCLE
2 tabs Benadryl before bed (can't recommend this enough)
4mL Synthetine

...and I'm carb cycling. Losing about 1.5-3lbs WEEKLY for the past 5 weeks

But i thought clen is a stimulant, right? Also when you write A, E, C, do you mean vitamins? Also why benadril?