i did Mag-10 (kinda like a 4AD/1test thing if i recall) and nordiol dermal by ergo. did one dose mag-10 for a few weeks (more towards a month), then one dose mag-10 and 8+8 sprays of nordiol for about two weeks, then just 12+12 nordiol sprays for the last week. it was a cutting cycle, and let me tell you i did great with keeping my muscle and burning fat. got tons of compliments on my results. i was a dumbass and used my clomid during the cycle as well as after. not sure what i was thinking. i believe i used 1/4 tab arimidex ED also the whole way through. i would like to try the 4AD/nordiol dermal/1AD stack sometime soon on a bulker. but i am busy with oral steroids right now, so no PS/PH's. i say go for it, i think it will work fantastic. also i was thinking of using boldione either in conjuction or in place of one of the PH's. just a thought.