I'm using Hella/Epistrong combo right now for cutting cycle, doing CKD.. Also using T3/Clen
Running it for 6 weeks, I was told by many people that Hella starts to kick in REALLY nice @ the 5th week, so it makes sense to run it for 6 weeks.
So far I'm loving every minute of being @ the gym... no carbs for energy, but I still find myself FORCING myself out of the gym.. Last night I went to the change room twice, and came back out to do 1 more set.. lol