after 1AD... clomid? Trib? ZMA?

[wrestler69]

after the bottle of 1AD is gone...what should i do to restore natual test levels. right now i am taking 2 pills a day for the first week. then i will up it to 3 pills the second and third..then back down to 2 the fourth and 1 the fifth. Is there something i should throw mix. I don't have acess to clomid or 4AD.
thanx

 

[riskybizz007]

I used Maca post cycle and felt it worked great. Brought the testes back to normal size and they descended.

 

[blackdream71]

what brand of MACA did you use and where did you purchase it? And by the way man your taking way too little of the 1-AD, you need to take AT LEAST 600mg per day for good results....

 

[pa1ad]

after the bottle of 1AD is gone...what should i do to restore natual test levels. right now i am taking 2 pills a day for the first week. then i will up it to 3 pills the second and third..then back down to 2 the fourth and 1 the fifth. Is there something i should throw mix. I don't have acess to clomid or 4AD.
thanx

I will have a supplement to restore your natural production in 8 weeks or so. That is, the supplement will be available in 8 weeks, not that it will take 8 weeks for the supplement to work. whatever

 

[blackdream71]

that's cool PAT, what will be the ingredients in this new product?

 

[Fortes]

Blackdream

You really do not need 600 mg/day to see results . . .

I started 1-AD @ 235 lbs. After 4 weeks of 400mg/day divided into 4 doses (1 pill every 3 hours), I weighed in at 250. During that last week I repped my old bench max (315) 5 times and my old squat max (405) 4 times.

Moral of the story: don't go crazy on the dosages unless you have to. Save your money, reduce potential sides, and stretch that androgen out. Unless, of course, you are doing a 2 on/ 4 off type of cycle, in which case you'd want to go 900mg/day for the first week, and continue with anywhere between 300-900 mg/day for the second.

Oh yeah, if you don't taper off, use an anti-estrogen and a nut grower post cycle for crying out loud!

 

[pa1ad]

that's cool PAT, what will be the ingredients in this new product?

something completely new that you have never heard of

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Re: Re: after 1AD... clomid? Trib? ZMA?

I will have a supplement to restore your natural production in 8 weeks or so. That is, the supplement will be available in 8 weeks, not that it will take 8 weeks for the supplement to work. whatever

Hi Pat,

Does this work via a different mechanism than opposing estrogen to increase LH? I ask because anti-estrogens and aromatase inhibitors do not realy help you restore testosterone production post cycle.


- Bill

 

[manny78]

something completely new that you have never heard of

if it's cheaper and as affective as clomid then why not.

 

[Primal X]

if it's cheaper and as affective as clomid then why not.

I get 24 clomid for $10. That means my nuts are hanging again after only about $15 spent. I doubt PA's product will be cheaper, but more effective, maybe.