As a new user to AAS I was used to seeing mods and vets on other forums (AM, PHF, Isteroid) talking about how it's the standard tried and true PCT. New users like myself are very susceptible to believing anything a jacked up dude says since he obvious knows what works for him. Personally I was skeptical of ntbm's PCT which seems to be heavily pushed on this forum because of the obvious bias. I am a firm believer of making a decision based off of personal experience, so eventually I will find myself using his products to see for myself what the results are. I have used nolva and clomid in PCT before and have noticed the depression and acne. I feel that it's difficult to pinpoint that on the nolva and clomid though since my hormones are so out of whack during that portion of the cycle anyways.