What do you think is the best steroid cycle if its your first?

[mr.cuts]

SEE....this guy knows how to have a difference of opinion and hadle it like a mature individual




and there were two issues with Dillhole:

1 - should you stack for a first cycle

2 - the low does suggested - 250 mg



......so there are two issues here......250mg is not a beneficial does for an anabolic state imo



opinion will vary of the stacking issue...


Like Tom said -you will probably get better results from more than one compound...

I would however start the Nolvadex a bit sooner than 4 weeks after the last shot....



and I might run L-dex as well

What you are forgetting is that a long acting ester test(cyp,enanthate) provides a gradual buildup in blood levels as the weeks progress. This is the nature of a long acting ester, they are meant to be injected every 2-4 weeks. So if you are using 250mg per week, by week 10 you will have blood levels which are probably equivalant to 2-3 X that of the 250mg dose. Understand??? I am sure you would agree that by week 10 ,you would be in a fairly anabolic state. Or are you really that stupid to disagree???

 

[Judo Tom]

your not a fast learner are you?

 

[patsfan1379]

boy he sure likes to argue.

 

[slat1]

Test enanthate... 250mgs e/w for ten weeks...
PCT too!

 

[The Shadow]

What you are forgetting is that a long acting ester test(cyp,enanthate) provides a gradual buildup in blood levels as the weeks progress. This is the nature of a long acting ester, they are meant to be injected every 2-4 weeks. So if you are using 250mg per week, by week 10 you will have blood levels which are probably equivalant to 2-3 X that of the 250mg dose. Understand??? I am sure you would agree that by week 10 ,you would be in a fairly anabolic state. Or are you really that stupid to disagree???

RoidCalculator Diagram viewing total roids in blood
Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
250mg(5) 1 238 mg
2 207 mg
3 180 mg
4 157 mg
5 136 mg
6 119 mg
7 103 mg
250mg(5) 8 327 mg
9 285 mg
10 248 mg
11 216 mg
12 188 mg
13 164 mg
14 143 mg
250mg(5) 15 362 mg
16 315 mg
17 274 mg
18 239 mg
19 208 mg
20 181 mg
21 157 mg
250mg(5) 22 375 mg
23 326 mg
24 284 mg
25 247 mg
26 215 mg
27 187 mg
28 163 mg
250mg(5) 29 379 mg
30 330 mg
31 288 mg
32 250 mg
33 218 mg
34 190 mg
35 165 mg
250mg(5) 36 381 mg
37 332 mg
38 289 mg
39 252 mg
40 219 mg
41 191 mg
42 166 mg
250mg(5) 43 382 mg
44 333 mg
45 289 mg
46 252 mg
47 219 mg
48 191 mg
49 166 mg
250mg(5) 50 382 mg
51 333 mg
52 290 mg
53 252 mg
54 220 mg
55 191 mg
56 166 mg





Ok - here ya go again.....250mg PER WEEK.......

looks like it tops out at less than 400 mg..on the day of each shot......reduce the frequency to every two weeks and it even less...THIS CHART GOES TO 8 WEEKS....DOESNT MATTER AS RESULTS ARE SAME






SO LETS RECAP:


So if you are using 250mg per week, by week 10 you will have blood levels which are probably equivalant to 2-3 X that of the 250mg dose. Understand??? I am sure you would agree that by week 10 ,you would be in a fairly anabolic state. Or are you really that stupid to disagree???





2-3X??


UMMMM...NO



ANABOLIC BY WEEK 8 OR EVEN 10??


UMMMMMMMM....NO



SO - AGAIN...TRY TO THINK OF A MODERATELY INTELLIGENT RESPONSE BEFORE YOU WASTE THE EFFORT TO POST SOMETHING THAT A MONKEY SHACKLED TO A SMITH CORONA COULD POUND OUT IN ABOUT 5 SECONDS.




PLEASE PWN ME AGAIN.....


LMAO


YOU ARE PATHETIC

 

[mr.cuts]

RoidCalculator Diagram viewing total roids in blood
Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
250mg(5) 1 238 mg
2 207 mg
3 180 mg
4 157 mg
5 136 mg
6 119 mg
7 103 mg
250mg(5) 8 327 mg
9 285 mg
10 248 mg
11 216 mg
12 188 mg
13 164 mg
14 143 mg
250mg(5) 15 362 mg
16 315 mg
17 274 mg
18 239 mg
19 208 mg
20 181 mg
21 157 mg
250mg(5) 22 375 mg
23 326 mg
24 284 mg
25 247 mg
26 215 mg
27 187 mg
28 163 mg
250mg(5) 29 379 mg
30 330 mg
31 288 mg
32 250 mg
33 218 mg
34 190 mg
35 165 mg
250mg(5) 36 381 mg
37 332 mg
38 289 mg
39 252 mg
40 219 mg
41 191 mg
42 166 mg
250mg(5) 43 382 mg
44 333 mg
45 289 mg
46 252 mg
47 219 mg
48 191 mg
49 166 mg
250mg(5) 50 382 mg
51 333 mg
52 290 mg
53 252 mg
54 220 mg
55 191 mg
56 166 mg





Ok - here ya go again.....250mg PER WEEK.......

looks like it tops out at less than 400 mg..on the day of each shot......reduce the frequency to every two weeks and it even less...THIS CHART GOES TO 8 WEEKS....DOESNT MATTER AS RESULTS ARE SAME






SO LETS RECAP:


So if you are using 250mg per week, by week 10 you will have blood levels which are probably equivalant to 2-3 X that of the 250mg dose. Understand??? I am sure you would agree that by week 10 ,you would be in a fairly anabolic state. Or are you really that stupid to disagree???





2-3X??


UMMMM...NO



ANABOLIC BY WEEK 8 OR EVEN 10??


UMMMMMMMM....NO



SO - AGAIN...TRY TO THINK OF A MODERATELY INTELLIGENT RESPONSE BEFORE YOU WASTE THE EFFORT TO POST SOMETHING THAT A MONKEY SHACKLED TO A SMITH CORONA COULD POUND OUT IN ABOUT 5 SECONDS.




PLEASE PWN ME AGAIN.....


LMAO


YOU ARE PATHETIC

Why don't you ask Bigandy69 about the gradual buildup associated with using long acting esters? For all we know, you could of pulled those numbers out of your ass! At least post the source where you obtained that info.

 

[The Shadow]

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/steroids.asp

 

[sweed]

Why don't you ask Bigandy69 about the gradual buildup associated with using long acting esters? For all we know, you could of pulled those numbers out of your ass! At least post the source where you obtained that info.

i guess he's smart enough to use white font so we can read it, lol

 

[The Shadow]

Lmao

 

[Bigdogmikey]

anyone going to answer my questions?

Deca at 200-300mg
Test Enanthate or cypionate at 250-500
And maybe d-bols, for the first 4 weeks at 25-35 mg a day

This is a nice basic stack, doses are kept low because this shit will hit you like a ton of bricks, i gained 25lbs off test/deca. your only injecting really once a week. this is a mass stack. I need to know your stats and goals to give you really what you want and training experience. 33% is rest 33% is eating correctly 33% is training the other one percent is the juice. You get what i mean dude?